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Rare Arkansas Cobra

Many of you have never seen an Arkansas Cobra, so I thought that I would post the following shot.



Comments (18)

  • dbarron
    5 years ago

    I haven't seen but one in my life, despite living in Arkansas more than half of it. Fascinating critters!

  • jekeesl (south-central Arkansas)
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Well, I've always called these blacksnakes. I did try to find the scientific ID before posting, but was not sure of that since there are so many color phases. However, I don't think this is one of the hognose snake species, because those have flatter heads in the vertical axis. I'm leaning toward the black form of Elaphe obsolete (previously Pantherophis obsoletus), but would welcome a correction, if needed. In any case, these harmless snakes are very common in this part of Arkansas. I probably see one 40-50 times a year.


    I almost quit grilling a few years ago, because of these snakes. We tend to get mice and packrats in our grill over the winter months. Twice, when I was cleaning out the nest residue in the spring, I came up with a handful of blacksnake in the nest. As said, they're harmless … unless they give me heart failure from the surprise.


    These snakes also tend to rest in an odd, crooked form that may help someone else confirm the ID. Here's a second photo of that pose, along with a closer shot of the head.




  • jekeesl (south-central Arkansas)
    Original Author
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Well, Houzz cut off the head shot, so I'll include it here. And I should mention that this snake isn't necessarily the same species as the one in the first photo above.



  • dbarron
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    I believe the photos are a blacksnake (not a hog nosed). Two different species. I assumed from your descript of cobra you meant hog nosed snake.

    Black snakes are everywhere. I even had to cut one out of a section of bird netting once (alive and well) because of hopeless entanglement. Yes, I concur on your latin.

    The hog nosed can indeed put on the spread hood look of a cobra...really freaked me out the first time I saw it. Hog nosed isn't as dark as black snake and tends more toward brown and looks more like a timber rattler.

    I tentatively submit your first photo is of a Coluber constrictor foxii, aka blue racer.Oh, and despite what wikipedia says about range, they do exist (or used to) here. They're just very intolerant of humans and thus losing ground fast. Fascinating though.

    jekeesl (south-central Arkansas) thanked dbarron
  • macranthos
    5 years ago

    I have never seen a snake do that kinked crawl! Amazing.

  • geoforce
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    dbarron.. I know what you're talking about here. I also had to cut one out of a clunp of netting once also and the darn ungrateful critter bit me twice on my thumb bringing blood while I was trying to help it, They get into some very compromised positions. I found one once caught in the hole in the bottom of an empty flower pot it had tried to get through.



  • arbordave (SE MI)
    5 years ago

    I think dbarron has ID'd them correctly, blue (or black) racer and blacksnake (black ratsnake).

    Regarding the racer Wikipedia notes that "They are curious snakes with excellent vision and are sometimes seen raising their head above the height of the grass they are crawling in to view what is around them."

    jekeesl (south-central Arkansas) thanked arbordave (SE MI)
  • jekeesl (south-central Arkansas)
    Original Author
    5 years ago

    Thanks for the help. I have seen a blue racer here just once over the last 14 years. The one above is more black, so may be the Southern Black Racer (Coluber constrictor priapus). Both are either very rare, or just secretive.

  • gyr_falcon
    5 years ago

    Interesting photos. I've never seen the relaxed, kinked posture before with a snake. But I have only seen that species infrequently, while vacationing.

  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    5 years ago

    I almost quit grilling a few years ago, because of these snakes. We tend to get mice and packrats in our grill over the winter months.


    ==>>> why in the world arent you grilling during winter ...??? ... now that is the real question ... lol ...


    crikey what are you.. z6??...7???...8????


    ken


    ps: if nothing else.. just light it every other weeks or so.. and grill whatever is in there.. lol ...


    pps: thx for the snake pix ....

  • Embothrium
    5 years ago

    >Is this botanically Heterondon platirhinos, aka Eastern Hognose snake?<

    No.


  • dbarron
    5 years ago

    It's not botanically anything. This is a snake not a cobra lily :)

  • peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
    5 years ago

    The first snake is a noble looking creature. The kinking is really odd on the second pic, nature is strange.

  • wantonamara Z8 CenTex
    5 years ago

    I have seen three Hognosed snakes here. I don't know which hognose. I had to cut out one from netting. Netting can kill. I still bear guilt about the Horny toad that died in it. I started to bag it in plastic when not in use after that.

  • bengz6westmd
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Black snake in dawn redwood on my lot this past late spring. I would guess it "kinks" its body to keep a grip on the branch:

    jekeesl (south-central Arkansas) thanked bengz6westmd
  • gyr_falcon
    5 years ago

    A university's site, while looking up the behavior, stated that they kink and remain motionless when frightened. Perhaps it makes them appear less like a snake, and helps them to visually blend into their surroundings.

  • theforgottenone1013 (SE MI zone 5b/6a)
    4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    I came across a blue racer that did that a few years back. The head raising, not the kinking. I was out looking for morels when I startled it. The damn thing raised it head up and then took off with its head still raised. It freaked me out. The thing was huge (well, at least compared to the garter snakes I am used to).

    Great pics, by the way. Didn't know about them kinking their bodies. Learned something new.

    Rodney

    Edit: Oop. Just saw the date on this thread. Didn't know it was a few months old.