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My kitchen in my new build ended up being 1 to 2 feet shorter

7 years ago

The kitchen in my new build us about 1 to 2 feet shorter in length than it was supposed to be. I need help with my design. Its in the dry but no drywall is up yet so I can make some minor changes. The island was originally supposed to be 6’ 9“ but that size will no longer fit. I can take down the walls of the pantry and gain back 2 feet and use the storage behind it for my pantry. I’m including a pic of the plans. Will it look ok to extend my kitchen into the pantry space? The kitchen as it is right now is 11’ by 13’.


Comments (39)

  • 7 years ago

    Are you saying the builder/framer failed to follow the plan and built the house to significantly different dimensions?

  • 7 years ago

    We need more background. That is a huge miss that I would have them fix now on their dime. If they aren't building to plans at this stage I am afraid of what other nightmares are coming your way on this build.

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Your builder is obligated to construct your home substantially as per the approved plans and specifications. An error of a couple of inches would comply with that requirement, but an error of one to two feet wouldn't, in my opinion. Your builder needs to make it right for you. If the problem has resulted from an error in the plans, then you need to go back to your design professional to make it right.

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  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    I’m confused....2 ft is significant. Is the kitchen the only room affected (did they make the storage closet in the garage 2 feet wider than it should have been or something?)


    Either way, I would not want to lose pantry storage space. You also don’t have a lot of extra room in the garage, either. Especially If you have a bunch of bikes, toys, lawn mower, snowblower, garden stuff, etc to store.

  • 7 years ago

    We are building it ourselves so we hired out. My dad is my contractor. I think it happened when the foundation was poured so unless I tear the house down and start over I don’t think there is anyway to fix it. I’m just trying to find the best solution with what I have right now. I appreciate any input you can give me.

  • 7 years ago

    Please explain. That sounds like builder error and he/she needs to fix it to match the plans.

  • 7 years ago

    we are building it ourselves with the help of my dad who is a retired builder. We are contracting out the things we can’t do ourselves. I think it happened when the foundation was poured so unless we tear down and completely start over I don’t think it can be fixed. I’m trying to find the best solution for what I ended up with. The storage behind the pantry can be used as a pantry instead of storage. I appreciate any input you can give me.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    So are all the rooms on the front of the house 2 ft shorter?

    Have cabinets been ordered? Countertops?

    I would be inclined to shorten the island (sink wont be centered anymore) and leave the general layout the same. The space between the fridge and range might also need to be shortened, depending on how much room you have between the end of the countertop and the doorway to master/mud/laundry. If the kitchen island size is priority for you, then you can play around with the layout and pantry.

    You could take some space from the pantry and redesign that area, but you might want to move the ktichen layout around at the same time, which may not be easy with gas/electrical/plumbing in place.

    If you keep the pantry as is, I would do a pocket door.....that could be an annoying door with the fridge right there

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Post an AS BUILT measured plan. 2’ is *SIGNIFICANTLY* wrong, and highly impactful to many many downstream elements. Not just your kitchen design. That affects your roof framing and trusses, your plumbing locations and layout possibilities for everything in the house. Is someone on this build carrying the proper insurance here? You can end up having a wrongly built house and a workman’s comp lawsuit too.

    This is bad enough to fire a builder. You can’t fire yourself. You need to figure out if it’s worse to fix or to leave. Which means you need the AS BUILT. The kitchen isn’t the only thing to need fixing from something like this. This requires major design input from a professional.

  • 7 years ago

    Hi OP- I'm sorry this happened- how frustrating. I'm not a layout guru but I think you have plenty of storage with a 2 car garage. Can you combine the pantry and storage area to create a fabulous butler's pantry, or are you trying to get more prep or circulation space in the kitchen?

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    @GreenDesigns, I'm familiar with errors and omissions insurance on the design side, but I'm not sure it exists on the construction side. If it did, the premiums for an owner-builder job would likely cost as much as a house itself. The OP's dilemma provides a case in point.

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    When I was in college a few years ago (wink-wink nudge-nudge) I worked for a cabinet manufacturer where I designed kitchen and bathroom cabinets. I went out to a new home to measure it for cabinets. After looking for several minutes I could not find the powder room. I had to ask the builder and he told me there was none; the foundation guy messed up and his error ended up eliminating the powder room. Perhaps the foundation guy is still in business?

  • 7 years ago

    The red wall is 11’ the blue wall is 13’. Plumbing and electrical have not been installed yet.

  • PRO
    7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Yikes. Ok. Working with family can be interesting. Some questions for you...

    • Are you also able to cut into bedroom #4?
    • Are you wanting to cut 2' from the pantry? If so, that makes the pantry very shallow, which is "fine", BUT that makes the pantry items difficult to reach that aren't directly in front of the door. A 22" deep pantry with 16"-20" pantry shelves is problematic and not functional with your current door set up.
    • Are you willing to lose the garage storage and move the pantry to that area and rework bedroom #4's closet situation OR cut the pantry width a couple feet and leave bedroom #4's closet as is to truly have the pantry only take up the garage Storage space?

    Just some things to think about and some options that might work depending on what you're willing to sacrifice.

    Such a bummer of a situation! Good luck!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

  • 7 years ago

    I would ditch the pantry completely and extend the kitchen into the pantry area and make the perimeter an L shape.

    Also get rid of the microwave above the stove. That's hazardous and dangerous. Put in a real exhaust hood and move the microwave to a shelf under the cabinets.

    Jmoore thanked cpartist
  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    The design professionals can give you better suggestions for layout than I can offer. My only thought is that if you end up with a walk-in pantry, a pocket door might be more convenient than one that opens into what appears to be a relatively tight space. Best wishes!

    Jmoore thanked dsgts
  • 7 years ago

    The rest of the house was not impacted besides losing a little bit of the laundry room and my lockers are a bit smaller. That is not a big dea to me. As far as the roof goes my dad, brother and husband did all the framing and roofing so all of that is fine. Im just trying to figure out the best way to add a little more space to my kitchen as an island is very important to me.

  • 7 years ago

    I’m willing to lose the pantry and use the garage storage as the pantry instead. I’m just not sure how it would look design wise.

  • 7 years ago

    I would bump the cabinets into bedroom 4 the 2 feet. I think this would be nicer anyway. Then take over the whole storage space in the garage and end up with an even nicer pantry!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    Is this too simple of a solution concept?

  • 7 years ago

    Here's a layout that works better than what you had anyway. Before to unload groceries you had to walk through your work zone from the garage to get to the pantry/fridge.

    Plus you had the microwave above the stove. Put a good range hood above, not a microwave. I didn't show the microwave but you have lots of options now.

    Note I created a pantry on the end nearest where you enter the kitchen from the garage. You can build it as a closet or use cabinets to make one.

    Make all your lower cabinets drawers for lots of storage and make the drawers as much as possible 30" -36" wide. Note I only added uppers along the stove wall and that's because you'll find with drawers you don't need as many uppers.Also with all the drawers and the larger kitchen you may not miss the larger pantry.


    Jmoore thanked cpartist
  • 7 years ago

    Mark an angled island is never a smart solution.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you everyone! You’ve given me lots of great ideas!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    ^^greatest response, haha!

  • 7 years ago

    I like that cp's version puts the refrigerator near the dining area. In the original layout, anyone coming from the dining area to get a drink or condiment out of the fridge had to pass through the cooking work zone.

  • 7 years ago

    Thank you everyone! You’ve given me lots of great ideas!

  • PRO
    7 years ago

    @Mark. I guess it just wasn't your time....

  • 7 years ago

    You could also put the fridge on the corner of the L (in space from bedroom 4). I like no sink/DW in the island.

  • 7 years ago

    In cpartist layout you could put a pantry cabinet on the side of the stove that is towards the living room. Or you can break the corner and create an entry to the storage area there to re-purpose it as a pantry. I like the last option better as that removes a corner which is inefficient storage space anyways.





    Jmoore thanked lyfia
  • 7 years ago

    Here I moved the pantry and tried to adjust approx 2 ft for the loss in kitchen space there towards the dining room.





    Did your living area shrink too?

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  • 7 years ago

    Lyfia the reason I put the pantry next to the fridge in my version was two-fold.

    1. It's right next to the entry from the mudroom/garage. In both your versions, they'd be crossing through the work zone to get to the pantry to put stuff away.

    2. It's next to the fridge. When we start to cook, we normally take food out of the fridge and/or pantry to bring it to the sink. This way the OP doesn't have to cross the kitchen to go from fridge to pantry to get all their supplies.

  • 7 years ago

    Lyfia, no I didn’t lose any sq footage in the living room just the kitchen and mud room laundry area.

  • 7 years ago

    Is 11' the revised dimension or is it the original dimension? When I add up all the kitchen dimensions, I get 11'-9". If the new dimension is 9'-9", then CPartist's layout will be cramped on the 9'-9" wall. Jmoore, you could do something like this:


    I moved the walls up 2' here, just to represent approximately the as-built kitchen wall. I would actually consider moving the entry from the garage where you have the storage closet.

  • 7 years ago

    It was originally supposed to be 14 feet long but somewhere between the design plans and foundation it got messed up. Right now it’s 11’ 2”. I‘ll include a photo of the original house plan. I had it modified slightly to make the kitchen wider and had it flipped. The designer did make the kitchen wider but cut the length. The foundation further cut the length. I should have paid more attention to the final plan but I trusted it was done how I asked. Love and learn I guess.


  • 7 years ago

    Mark, I think that’s what happened with us. The foundation was not poured correctly.

  • 7 years ago

    cpartist I moved it because I thought the OP didn't have that space anymore. But it sounds like it is available.

  • 7 years ago
    last modified: 7 years ago

    Ok, so it's not as small as I thought. Cpartist's layout should work and give you a more functional space (lemonade out of lemons). Heed her advice about ditching the microhood. Hope the rest of your build goes well.

    Jmoore thanked zmith