Flowers that's a good suggestion on William Shakespeare

Dark desire was a dud for me so that's not one I would replace but William Shakespeare that might be a really good idea i do love that red

Hey, I have crimson glory in a pot that might be a nice replacement I wonder if it would fry in the afternoon Sun?

From my experience with the climbing version, CG likes the sun! However, I wouldn't consider her colour similar to Munstead..... it's nearer to DD in my garden. Let me think on this! I have quite a few dark ones, but Munstead is unique. Have you considered Falstaff? He seems to thrive on the heat and has almost Gallica colours. Ascot does for me as well, but it's a very new plant. Do you want something with a fully double flower form or just a similar colour?

@HalloBlondie, awesome choices! do you mind sharing the garden center location/name where you got these gorgeous DA flowers?

Dianela, that is so funny. Does your husband have a weed torch, too? If he doesn't, take my advice and don't buy him one. Do all men have a propensity for pyrotechnics, or is just our men?

Kristine, I don't know anything about Crimson Glory except that I keep thinking I want it.

Vap, I just think something that blends with the other pinks and the white Desdemona but nothing that's just another pink. something that's gonna have a little pop of color Munstead does really well in a pot that gets morning Sun and afternoon shade and I just think the one in the ground needs a little less 110ﾟ weather. Actually, young lycidas would look really good there because this is a tall retaining wall and it could fl over the edge and might look really pretty with the other colors.

Flowers, so your better half (ahem) has burned all those plants? And you're still married? That shows a lot of restraint on your part, though you did buy the flame thrower.....Is Bonny the rose with small, light colored blooms? I'm looking that one up. I checked on the availability of Leo as a potted rose (too late for bare roots), and found that Heirloom has it for sale as a puny one gallon plant at $38, plus shipping. I've never paid that much for five gallon plants. I'm desperate. What do you think? Or should I wait yet another year for a cheap bare root from Hortico, or even Palatine? There are lots of azalea type snaps. I'll make up a list of them for my next post.

Lisa, I have Chinese forget Me Nots! I sowed the seed last year, and I think I tore out the seedlings, thinking they were weed seedlings--this is a common mistake for a weed warrior like me. Anyway, a few came up this year, and I love them. I also like my delicate blue, bell shaped anchusa. I'll post photos later.

Kristine, Soul Sister is a ruffly belle with outstanding color. I would like to grow that one. Bolero is luscious, too. Did you grow your Canterbury Bells from seed or find plants? They are not commonly for sale around here. I've grown them both ways, but had to wait a year from seed because this one's a biennial, and those plants seem to be shunned a lot.

For a change of pace, I'm going to post some photos from my gardening friend's huge and wonderful garden. These were taken June 5 when we came to her home for lunch. Her Evelyn is the best; mine started later and have paler color because of the heat. The rose on the gazebo is Zeffy. The arbor shows the entrance to her contained rose garden. She grows roses all over her garden, though. The pergola (hoop tunnel) is probably now totally covered with Jackman Clematis in full bloom. In the photo, Jackman is barely getting started. Diane

The last photo shows just a small part of huge bed of hardy geraniums that were barely starting to bloom. Every one of these massive plants seeded itself in this bed and assumed a perfect round shape. How'd it be to have plants that are free and do all the work for you? Diane

Such a big beautiful garden, Diane. You are so fortunate to have a gardening friend. In that third photo from the bottom, it looks like one pink rose that starts on the left of the of the pic and trails right and over the arch and beyond. I can see at least two different pinks, but it has the look of one. She has restraint in using the same color in swaths, which is always good design. I would have been tempted to use a bunch of different clems on the tunnel, but using only Jackman on all three makes a much better statement. I think I see a Black Lace Sambucus, by the fence in the last pic. Those are such good tree/shrubs. I hope we get to see a pic of yours. You prune yours like a tree, don't you? Thank you for taking us on this field trip. You've mentioned your seed starting friend, so it feels like we know her.

Bonny is the rose you're thinking of. Kordes rambler, tiny, pale pink blooms, similar to The Fairy. I hope you find a source for Leo. Mine, along with his friend, Dortmund, were both bands and grew like crazy. They're not great next to each other, but I'm getting used to it. If he's off patent, I can send cuttings. That is, if it's ok with Idaho. I think you have stricter rules than WA.

@netMM - it's a wee little garden centre, kind of in the middle of nowhere, north of Barrie. It's called Ego's Garden Centre. I normally get Austin's at other places - bigger garden stores; but was disappointed with the lack of selection this year. So I decided to check it out. Obviously someone there is a huge fan of Austin's. They had very few other roses. But a lot of Austin's. They even had tree ones. Which I have never seen in a store around here. So off the top of my head they had:

Princess Alexandra of Kent
Roald Dahl
Queen of Sweden
Alnwick
Mary
Winchester Cathedral
Princess Anne
Munstead Wood
Falstaff
Tess of the D'uberville
Boscobel
The Lady Gardener
Charlotte
Claire Austin
The Generous Gardener
Benjamin Britten
Maybe a few more that I'm forgetting too

Oh and they were all own root!

Where are you located?

Thank you for your offer, Flowers, but I do think that Idaho frowns on its citizens receiving any kind of plant material from out of state. The other thing is even if I were successful with a start, wouldn't it take 3 years for the rose to attain some size? I'm not that patient, and I'm not in the mood to dig out Mr Cadfael right now, so I should probably wait for spring and bare root season. Heirloom just has own root plants, and I'm not sold on them. Is your Leo own root? My own root Julia has hit her stride finally, and she's fine as an own root, but Abe Darby is another story....Thank you for the nice things you said about my friend's garden. She's not only been a friend since we were in the second grade together (and graduated together), she's been a fantastic gardening mentor, and so generous with starts and passalongs. Her dad lived to 100, and I grow his antique peonies, brunnera, and violets. All my Jupiter's beard, lavender, veronica, and many other plants, not to mention snapdragons, came from her. I think the climber on her rose garden arbor is Eden (she grows more than one). The other roses to the side are Austins, possibly Sophy's Rose, plus others.I know she grows Abe, Brother Cadfael, Mother of Pearl. She has many hedges of roses, and my favorite for this function is Nearly Wild. She grows a couple of Dortmund, too. And on and on. Yes, she grows many Black Lace elderberry as big shrubs. Here is another photo showing Jeanne la Joie on the fence. And my "Elder" tree. Diane

Oops, no Jeanne on the fence--wrong section. Isn't that a short hedge of Nearly Wild? Diane

Trish, I'm so happy that Rosie is on the mend. I'm sure your love and care have a lot to do with that. Animals, I'm sure, heal much more quickly when they know they're cherished.

Diane, your friend's garden is incredible, like an English garden next to a stately home, tended by five full-time gardeners, who manicure everything to perfection. However, I find I prefer your intimate garden with roses growing close together, with beautiful contrasts like the deep purple and pink roses in one of the pictures, or the yellow of Golden Celebration against the pink flowers of Boscobel. I love how you've trained GC as a climber up your porch. You mention all sorts of gardening challenges, but you overcome it all, and your roses could not be more beautiful. My Evelyns are resting (and thank you for inquiring), although they're showing some new growth, but without rich soil or fertilizer of any kind it's slow going here for all the roses. I'm content as long as everything looks reasonably healthy, and I'll enjoy the blooms all the more when they arrive.

I nearly fainted when I saw those weed torches; I had no idea such a thing even existed. In these parts if you wielded one of those you'd be arrested just as soon as the neighbors got through reporting you, and you would not be heard from again for a very long time.

Thank you all for the wonderful posts and gorgeous photos. I tell myself I can get all the garden beauty here without having to lift a finger or a trowel.

Diane, my Leo is own root. Bought it as a band, planted late in the season. This is his 3rd full year.

I love that Nearly Wild hedge. It's covered with blooms like a once bloomer, but NW blooms all season. Thank you for posting your own Black Lace. They make such a good back drop for roses. I've never seen one pruned as you have done. What a great idea to make more room for plants underneath and less shade. Yours really is a tree. I just can't get enough of your photos. More, please!

Ingrid, I nearly fainted, too, when I saw what has been going on in areas I can't see from the house. I think a course in handling the thing ought to be required with purchase. They are not allowed in some states, and have to be registered with the fire dept. in others. Not here. I bought it for him because there are parts of our property where an invasive weed grows that we are required to keep under control. The fire dept. makes the rounds every year and checks in rural areas. I thought this would be a better way for him to keep it under control than Round Up, which he was using. I asked him if he would weed whack or mow the tall grasses in the area for the new bed, but he saw it as an opportunity to get the flame thrower out. Pine needles and pine cones are so combustable, it makes me nervous.

@Trish - glad to hear the updates on Rosie. Hope you are both comfortable and relaxing!

@Flowers - I laughed at your photos of the flame thrower! But I also had to laugh that you are planning your next project in the garden, but you are still working on one! Is that not the way gardeners minds always work? It's nice to see more of your wooded area and what you are doing. The fence garden and arbour are intriguing. Look forward to seeing more.

@Kristine - nice to see some of your flowers even if it's just a quick posting! Glad you are still finding time to get outside.

@Diane - your friend's garden is lovely. How much property does she have? It looks like a large space. I love the alle with the trellises of clematis. I also like your tree form black lace elderberry. Is it a lot of work to maintain that?

Well I got 3 of my 4 roses planted today. I actually put 2 in spots where I murdered 2 existing roses. I felt bad pulling living roses out, but they were terrible. One was an intrigue that had 2 canes this spring then lost one to a wind storm. So it had 1 cane left that was 6 inches tall with 1 bud. I decided to put it out of it's misery. The other rose I removed was Winnipeg Parks. It got crushed by the pool delivery crane. And only grew one sad cane. And I never really liked it anyways. Was not that hardy and got black spot. So hopefully the new roses will fill the space much better.

Ingrid, thank you for the very nice things you have written about my garden. A compliment from you means a lot to me because I consider your garden skills to be outstanding, from the design of your garden that you have achieved, and to the perfect plant choices you have made to carry out your vision. Your home interior reflects this vision so well. It all works together splendidly. My friend will have a chuckle over those five gardeners you mention. She does it all. Her husband cares for the lawn very nicely and helps with the watering system, but he does not help with the garden itself. In the winter, they both work together often on projects like making tuteurs. Two years ago they made the pergola tunnel themselves.

Flowers, maybe I can risk Leo as an own root. He sounds fantastic in his growth from just a band to what he is now. Don't worry, I haven't run out of photos. Dinner is calling. Peonies after dinner? Diane

Enjoying all the great photos and conversations! :-)

This one could take care of the neighbors weeds also...lol

Here's what's blooming today! Cheery osteospermum, irises & my first oriental poppy bloom.

So many lovely photos and wonderful comments on this thread - can't comment on each person's post but thank you all!

And thank you to Jim for his generosity in maintaining these threads and for the funny posts. I hope rain stops one day in Pennsylrain-on-ya.

Here some pics of roses I planted this spring.

La Rose de Molinard is now about three feet tall and producing blooms about 3-3.5 inches wide. It has a sweet old rose scent. Another great rose from Palatine!

I can smell this Life of Party rose from several feet away. It keeps producing blooms in this pretty color in its partial shade location.

Ann

Compassion...it sort of glows in the evening I'm loving it.

Charles Darwin just took off and is getting big and has a dozen buds now. The sweet alyssum keeps intertwining itself with him but he seems fine with it.

@HalloBlondie, thank you for taking the time to respond in details. I am located in GTA, Ontario. My DA flowers were mostly bought at the local stores (Terra and others). A couple of weeks ago I went to Holland Park Garden Gallery in Hamilton hoping to find more varieties, I brought home The Poet’s Wife, Carding Mill, Tranquility. The Poet’s Wife is a wonderful yellow formation that really surprises me. Flowers are big with a nice fresh fragrance. Carding Mill is one of the fav of many gardeners here so I have high expectation on the plant overall. I have been searching for Princess Anne and Roald Dahl, and will definitely check out the Ego’s this week. Thanks once again for listing out the flower names. They got me very excited :) .

A few goodies: Carding Mill, The Poet’s Wife, Gertrude Jekyll, Ancient Mariner,

Wow great roses and flowers everyone!

Snapped these today before rain starts...

Tomato plant and roses in background...

Not sure what flower this is but they bloom and bloom...

Jim, things are really looking good but I bet you are very sick of rain.

No kidding! I can’t believe how much rain is falling around there! Things are looking good, though. Flowers, I thought exactly what Ingrid did. If anyone tried that flame thrower around here, they’d be in some giant trouble. I can see how delighted a man would be with such a thing. I’m sure it brings out the little boys in them! Lol

Beautiful pictures, everyone! I’ll share a picture of my front bed, that I took yesterday. Lisa

LoL Lisa! Nice pic!

Well if you can't beat it join it...lol...Raining today but really needed to start pulling weeds...Back yard is totally done but I got really wet and muddy... lol...I have the side and front to do yet...

Man these morning glory seedlings! Second year now of not having Morning Glories but the seedlings continue to pest me...lol...I weeded that bed of morning glory seedlings 2 days ago and today had to pull another 60-70 MG seedlings... This has been a ongoing thing esp with alot of rain...When will it end? lol

Cut grass yesterday in between raindrops...

Deadheaded alot more blooms today that were mush...But still have a decent amount left...

Bed where all the Morning Glories seedlings keep growing... Has two Lavender Hidicote, zinnias, unknown flower I forgot name...lol...hens & chicks...

pile of pulled Morning Glory etc. seedlings...

Jim, you have yearrrrrs of morning glory seedlings ahead of you. I have one area that I have pulling seedlings out of for at least 12 years. A little while ago, I started watering this area more because of a transplanted butterfly bush. Lo and behold, a crop of MG seedlings, the likes of which I hadn't seen in a while popped up. The seeds were lying in wait for some water. I pulled them up, and the next day they were back again. They love that water. In two other areas, I have been battling the seedlings for 10 and 5 years.....On a pleasanter topic....your garden is looking the best I have ever seen it. And the green green of that grass...wow. Your beds are so neat and tidy. You would hate the rose petal debris everywhere around here, plus I drop spent stalks of snapdragons and penstemon in the flower beds--that's next year's crop--ha.

NM, what beautiful roses, and Carding Mill is especially lovely to me.

Well, Lisa, there's no rain around here, just wind, and flame throwers would land you in prison...for life (just joking). For several summers, we couldn't even use secure fire pits. I love your front door vignette. Great snaps and jealousy producing hydrangea. Did you see my note to you buried in a post above? I have my first Chinese Forget Me Nots. I tore out the seedlings last year, thinking they were weeds. My CFMN "stand" if you can call it that is laughable compared to yours, but I would be thrilled if they spread. My anchusa I am pleased with. I wanted more delicate blue in my flower beds.

Here is my "stand" of Chinese Forget Me Nots, and some anchusa, Blue Angel. I also am thrilled with another natural hybrid that popped up, a new rudbeckia that is semi double with neat markings. If I were a plant hybridizer, maybe I could make some money on this one. Diane

@netMM - Carding Mill is a fantastic bloomer. It does get more black spot than my other DA's. I do not spray. So try and plant it with as much sun as possible, especially morning sun to dry up moisture. You mentioned Terra - my parents go there to buy, I never thought to have them look for Austin's in their area. If you are going to drive north. You could check Bradford Garden Gallery on Yonge Street. They carry DA's, but they didn't really have different ones from last year. Plus, they had them out in May. So inventory may be low. The Barrie Garden Gallery had none, so that was disappointing. Hence the drive up to Horseshoe. I planted Gertrude last year. It's looking vigorous this year. Your photos are great! Nice to have someone in the area for comparisons. Would love to know which roses you grow and how they have done!

Here's a few blooms of Carding Mill that I have.

Love the Carding Mill! Lisa, I don't think your front has ever looked more beautiful... it's really maturing. Is the charming light and dark pink rose The Faun or is that not a rose at all? I couldn't really zero in on it.

Everyone else's flowers are looking good too! I'm envious of those in zone 6 & above that can grow mac hydrangeas. I just dug up one and will be removing 3 more. They take up too much space for no blooms. They got so winter killed they are trying to releaf from the ground up.

I like the colour of the Chinese forget me nots. Also like your new hybrid!

Jim your flowers are looking happy despite the rain.

Wow! I missed less than a day and I can barely keep up with this thread! Such great pics and subjects!

Hallo - your Carding Mill is gorgeous! Almost all the leaves have fallen off mine and Abraham Darby and when I deadheaded yesterday there wasn't anything left! Disease is running rampant here with all the rain. I don't spray fungicide so have to suffer the loss.

Jim - I planted Grandpa Ott morning glories 20 years ago and they are still coming up everywhere. I don't know how you got anything done with all the rain! We are still under a flood warning. Yesterday afternoon we were under a flash flood warning and it rained so hard I had to take my low boots and socks off to come back from the barn as the water was backing up so badly. I went out this afternoon to try and prop things up but all it did was see me and start downpouring again.

nana - your gardens are out of this world and you have a gazebo! I am so envious! It is the last item on my garden bucket list but I don't think I am going to accomplish that task. Everything on my farm was built by me and at 70 I am thinking maybe this might be the straw that breaks the camels back! LOL!

flowers - my husband went bananas over your husbands new toy and wants to know where you managed to get a flame thrower! He has one of those heads that screw on one of those fat round propane cylinders but they don't throw flame like that! I can see his eyes gleaming - this is not a good thing!

Ikayet, misery loves company. Besides the rainm we can share fungal diseases. Overnight my NOID Eglantyne and Darcey Bussell completely shed their leaves! I was hoping with better care they wouldn't do this, and in their defense they have held on longer, but the humidity and temps win out in the end. Oh well, they'll grow them back and I might spray them with baking soda which really helped last year. Kudos to you for building everything yourself. Unless you really see using a gazebo, I'd give it a miss. With all the rain we've had for the past two years, I'm thinking a nice greenhouse would be more useful! : ((

Diane- I love my anchusa. It's one of my few actually blue plants. I'm not remembering the variety I grow, but it's terribly hairy and causes weird bumps on my skin if I touch it.....

Netmm and Halo- I just planted several Austin's I got waysides sale.... Which are the most cold tolerant for you? My hardiest Austin would have to be Ambridge. Started out as a tiny band and is now at least three and a half feet... That's getting some size here..... Quietness is another top performer along several of the newer kordes..... My roses are all covered in buds!! Getting excited for my spring flush!!

Lady of shallott

HalloBlondie, your irises, especially the first one, are simply exquisite. netMM, what beautiful portraits of Austin roses; The Poet's Wife is new to me and especially lovely. Lisa, I had no ideas hydrangeas grew so tall; that and the surrounding plants paint a beautiful picture. Carding Mill is an excellent hot-weather rose; so interesting to see it does well in colder climes also.

Ikaye, I am so sorry to read about all your rain and flood warnings. All this rain has serious national repercussions, too. There is a massive die off of crab, shrimp, oysters, and other yummy stuff that live in the salty waters of Louisiana and Mississippi lower swampy areas. The water is being diluted by fresh water pouring out of the Mississippi into the salty water where the seafood live. They die if there isn't a certain amount of salt in the water. Now, back to gardening--the gazebo is my good friend and gardening mentor's. She gardens several acres--by herself. We are both 73 and still do it all except the grass. Those photos were at her place June 5. My garden and yard are small, and I don't have room for a big gazebo. What I really want is a little cottage/garden retreat, sitting amongst the roses. That's not going to happen, sadly. I hope your rain finally stops. And no floods!

Blondie, what a beautiful Carding Mills. I love the colors and bloom structure. Any more roses blooming for you? I'm glad you got those new Austin roses, but thought of my not lamented PAoK that I dug out a few years back. She was a monster garden thug, and when the summer heated up, started producing little bright coral blooms with a few petals. I've never seen anything like it. I think you are in the right climate for PAoK. Your winters will keep her in check, and your milder summers won't the coral epidemic.

Diane, that's called a "She Shed"! I think you could have a little one with lots of windows. Have you ever seen Connie's at Hartwood Roses?

I love my she shed, with porch. Unfortunately, I have so many projects on the go that I have not had a chance to sit on that porch and enjoy it, lol! Still need to paint the door, build a long step in front of the porch, make a garden in front, perhaps a walkway to it, etc. Always something needing work, haha!

It's currently raining here tonight. But we had a few days of dry weather and no sign of flooding. So we are doing alright. Sorry to hear about the dismal water conditions elsewhere.

Ingrid I like seeing the antique roses you grow & the fact that you label them is great. I'm trying to learn about all the roses out there - old & new!

Well it's finally starting! I'm getting blooms, if the temperature gets up like they are saying, very soon, I will have tons of blooms. First one in ground is Moonlight in Paris, cheater bloom though! The last pic is PAOK in her pot, no credit for that because it came home on Tuesday! Some clematis is blooming. And my Rory gnome with the chives!

@Diane - I did not know that you removed PAOK. I like coral colours, so I would be okay with that, but single blooms would be a dud on this plant. We do get pretty hot weather here for end of June, July & August. It's usually in the 80's, feeling like the 90's with a humidity level of 100%! I seriously think if it was not for winter kill I could compete with Diane for size of plants, lol! Especially with the rainfall advantage here. But alas, I have to suck up my zone 4 & 5 winter ratings. On the very plus side, I can fit in a whole lot more varieties in my smaller yard.

@Kelly - almost all of my Austin's have survived winter here. Jubilee Celebration bit the bullet this year after 2 other winters. That one never grew very large here anyways. My Molineaux looks sad & is starting to regrow. Many get cut back to a few inches, but rebound really well. Teasing Georgia was pruned to a few inches and is already 3x3. By fall she will be 6 x 3 feet. Benjamin Britten will be 5x3 feet by fall too. But the ones that had the most green cane for me were: Crocus Rose, Strawberry Hill, Carding Mill, The Lady Gardener, Winchester Cathedral, Mary Rose, LD Braithwaite & Tess of the D'uberville. I may have more to add later but each year I plant new & different ones, so it all depends on winter. Kordes roses are also hit & miss. Poseidon & Rosanna were fine after the brutal winter of 2017, but this year they are worse. May not make it back after all. However, Cinderella was new last year & looks amazing already. That one is rated to zone 4 though.

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Thank you everyone for making the Spring seasonal threads a huge success! Have fun on the new SUMMER thread! See you all there...

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I'm hopping to the summer thread, but I want to comment on Blondie's beautiful clematis. What are their names? I particularly like the paler one in the center photo. Your cheater blooms are beautiful--even PAoK--ha. I remember your wonderful shack photos and the little side veggie garden. Everything is so beautifully put together.

Ingrid, your roses are all beauties, but Rosette Delizy is extraordinarily charming. The blended colors are so perfect and delicate. And there is something 1920s about her look. Diane

Blondie, your posts keep showing up late, so I'll comment on coraly PAoK--it makes your eyes water, and the petal reduction and puny bloom size are not a pretty look. When temps drop, it starts looking better. I'm speaking of results in my garden. Pair this with monstrous size. including very long stiff canes that poked and intimidated Munstead Wood, and I had recipe for removal of PAoK after three years. I don't regret it. Diane