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siding options for a modern farmhouse

6 years ago

I kid, I kid. this is not a modern farmhouse. maybe crackerbox style as one of the in-house architects fondly called it.

anyhow, I'm looking for siding options. the theme is "anything but brick"(or stone).

I'm open to suggestions. thanks

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  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Naf_Naf

    "I would go with James Hardie fiber cement siding and the option would be LP Smart Siding. I was very close to use the LP siding in my new house. They have a 12" wide siding that I really like and if I recall correctly, corners can be mitered (trims at corners will ruin the look you are going after). Consider going all the way to the floor at the large windows, and the one on the right, what about 1 12' W sliding door?"

    Thanks for the valuable input as always Naf.

    I did find a hardie profile that looks really good(hardie Artisan V groove), and I totally agree about not having trim in the corners



    Im trying to remember why I went with the shorter length for the large windows. I think that was the largest casement size I could find but now I'm seeing that they-at least Marvin does- have casement windows up to 8ft tall in their modern line. I'll have to revisit that. I could do a slider in the three window area and that may actually be a better option for that space actually, if I can find a good 3 panel 12ft system(which Im sure should not be a problem.)

    I still need quite a bit of work on the window game and Im sure it will change as I get pricing and options etc.

    thanks again

  • 6 years ago

    Artisan V groove is double the price of regular Hardie.

    Make the house cement block and you can do stucco right over it.

  • 6 years ago

    I think you may be a little premature on siding choices.
    Imo, you do need a little push / pull, recess the entry, allow for a changup in siding in the middle. Pull forward a little if necessary on 2/3 of the home, to leave the entry recessed and under roof.

    Hardie lap siding is great, but in present design, will only accentuate the " strip mall/ storefront" look of the design.
    btw, is this the front?

  • 6 years ago

    cpartist

    "Artisan V groove is double the price of regular Hardie.

    Make the house cement block and you can do stucco right over it."


    Thanks. that could be an option. I'll have to price it out. Here in Texas you hardly see cement builds like you do in Florida. It would probably be too expensive but I will have to check first before I write it off. Concrete does have some nice advantages.

  • 6 years ago

    "I think you may be a little premature on siding choices.
    Imo, you do need a little push / pull, recess the entry, allow for a changup in siding in the middle. Pull forward a little if necessary on 2/3 of the home, to leave the entry recessed and under roof.

    Hardie lap siding is great, but in present design, will only accentuate the " strip mall/ storefront" look of the design.
    btw, is this the front"

    hi Olivia,

    this is the back of the house, facing the backyard. I've turned the "back" of the house to the street(so to speak) and deliberately made it uninteresting.

  • 6 years ago

    Concrete houses - not for the faint of heart.

    The v-groove looks nice. I looked at a house that had cedar shiplap - and some galvanized metal accents - it was gorgeous -but a maintenance nightmare.

    Our architect is a fan of zinc as a cladding (actually standing seam metal roofing panels installed vertically), and also coreten steel.


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  • 6 years ago

    Chicagoans,


    those renders are absolutely gorgeous! That would be so pretty in real life. My concern would be how would the cedar looks when it silvers, and without any overhangs that would happen quite quickly. Im worried about the long term maintenance of cedar vs something low/no maintenance like hardie or vinyl

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Just_Janni,

    thanks for sharing that pic. Very nice "put together" look.


    So, concrete is a different beast huh? Thanks for the warning. I havent even considered it but I'll give it a look. Wanna share any of your experience with it?


    thanks

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    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    No reason the cedar has to be real. I'm sure with all the faux wood deck material out there there likely a siding that replicates cedar but has none of the maintenance issues.



  • 6 years ago

    My house is insulated concrete panels - so not really a cladding discussion. It's a simple, truthful material, but requires a crap ton of up front planning.

    here's another house with a simple shape but some mixed materials (some quite inexpensive but used creatively)

    https://www.tonic-design.com/projects/weathering-house/?portfolioCats=307

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  • 6 years ago

    Hardie lap can only be installed over a max. 1" foam. If doing 2" foam you'll need nailers over the foam. Or you could use ZIP System R-sheathing.

  • 6 years ago

    "this is the back of the house, facing the backyard. I've turned the "back" of the house to the street(so to speak) and deliberately made it uninteresting."

    uninteresting, or not, you do need to account for movement in/ out the door to the back yard. our back door opens 20 x more than the front..
    Give it some shelter, and shade, imo.

  • 6 years ago

    "No reason the cedar has to be real. I'm sure with all the faux wood deck material out there there likely a siding that replicates cedar but has none of the maintenance issues".

    hi Beverly, what system is that you posted a picture of? that looks like an interesting system

  • 6 years ago

    "Hardie lap can only be installed over a max. 1" foam. If doing 2" foam you'll need nailers over the foam. Or you could use ZIP System R-sheathing."

    thanks ksc36, I didn't know that. I do plan to have 3/4" thick fitting strips over the foam to create a rain gap- maybe I could nail to that if I use Hardie.

    I looked at the zip system - I don't like it because the butted boards don't insulate as well as using two 1"foam boards staggered

  • 6 years ago

    "you do need to account for movement in/ out the door to the back yard. our back door opens 20 x more than the front..
    Give it some shelter, and shade, imo"

    good point thank you. all exterior doors will have some type of shelter over them

  • 6 years ago

    ok, doing some research I'm really leaning towards a shiplap siding, either Hardie/lp or real wood.

    I cannot decide if I like horizontal or vertical better as they both look so good-i think vertical might be a little easier to install (one long piece from top to bottom, and will resist rain better.

    so question is- how difficult is the maintenance of a real wood siding?

  • 6 years ago

    Shiplap is only horizontal. What are you thinking of using for vertical?

  • 6 years ago

    I currently have a natural cedar sided house and yes it is an ongoing maintenance hassle. I’m considering using this cedar look steel siding in a future project. Saw a sample at my local building supply, was surprised how nice and wood-like it looked, compared to the vinyl simulated wood siding products also on display.

    https://www.qualityedge.com/siding/





  • 6 years ago

    Beverly,

    What material is that? Looks clean, warm and neat. One of the best looking options, so far.


    D E,

    Where are you building?

  • 6 years ago

    thanks Oneridgeoff, I will definitely look more into that company's products.


    Naf_Naf, Im in the Dallas TX area.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    "I looked at a house that had cedar shiplap - and some galvanized metal accents - it was gorgeous -but a maintenance nightmare. "

    Yes, I wondered about that. I'd love to see some faux examples IRL.

    In regards to silvering, here's an example of a home not too far from me. It's a few years old and faces south, so it gets some sun.



    I'd love to see the inside. I was intrigued by it as it was being built because it's in a neighborhood of much more traditional homes. (2 houses down from the one below, so very different.) But still looks good IMO. Maybe because all the homes are so different and the trees are big, a non-typical look is good, and in fact I prefer when homes don't look at all cookie cutter. (Not that I could afford the one below...)



    Sorry, got off track. My point was to show a facade (real wood? faux? no idea) that's been in the sun for a few years, and the fact that it doesn't 'blend' in the 'hood but still looks good.

    My concern on the fading would be whether it would be even. Anything that's more shaded would likely stay darker. The house near me has very small eaves so I don't see any color difference there.

    ETA: I like the example from Beverly. Would love to know the source.

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  • 6 years ago

    following

  • 6 years ago

    I'm in the middle of it right now, but here's what I'm doing on current house: horizontal corrugated siding with channel-lap wood siding under the porches. I'll never have to worry about paint or maintenance on the metal. The wood is well-protected by roofs. Missing some trim in this photo.


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  • 6 years ago

    I did not read all the messages, maybe someone already posted this:


    Cladding system


    Another Cladding option


    Resysta Brand


    User thanked Naf_Naf
  • 6 years ago

    I am in the NorthEast and we get deep snow, I am using the standing seam roofing material as wainscoting, like just_janni ilustrated above.

  • 6 years ago

    seabornman, really digging that look. what windows did you go with?

    thanks

  • 6 years ago

    local eater, nice look. what type of siding do you have above the standing seam

  • 6 years ago

    local eater, nice.

  • 6 years ago

    D E - above the metal wainscotting are regular hemlock clapboards. The soffits and the fascia board are all metal though. For juxtaposition the detached barn/garage is stained pine board run vertically. The back door, which you cant see on the above facade picture, will have a portico made or the stained wood to marry them. (Or that's the plan :) )

  • 6 years ago

    " For juxtaposition the detached barn/garage is stained pine board run vertically "


    Localeater do you perchance have a picture of the barn? thanks!

  • 6 years ago

    Not the best picture

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    Localeater, That is basically AWESOME

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks!

  • 6 years ago

    barn envy! that's so cool!

  • 6 years ago

    D E, we used Marvin Integrity casements.

  • 6 years ago

    thanks seabornman!

  • 6 years ago

    Clean and simple. I like.

  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I am taking another look at corrugated metal siding .

    it looks good, its inexpensive, low maintenance, does not require a separate rain screen, and easy to put up, it seems like it checks all the boxes.

    thoughts?

    chicagoans, do you think you could assist with a render on my elevation with some corrugated siding?(I would greatly appreciate it!)

    thanks



  • 6 years ago

    D E, sent you a message. I forgot to mention, you can get a 1/2" profile that's less expensive than the 7/8" profile. I bought a piece of the 1/2" from HD as a comparison. I liked the bolder 7/8" profile, but the 1/2" is easier to work with.

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  • 6 years ago

    seabornman

    "D E, sent you a message. I forgot to mention, you can get a 1/2" profile that's less expensive than the 7/8" profile. I bought a piece of the 1/2" from HD as a comparison. I liked the bolder 7/8" profile, but the 1/2" is easier to work with"


    thanks so much for that info :) .



  • 6 years ago

    here are some rough mockups with corrugated siding, installed vertically. I just used images I found online, so sizing etc may be completely off. This dark grey corrugated looks a lot like your last image (in fact I thought maybe that was a rendering of your house.)



    This one is standing seam:



    Not sure but it seems that anything unfinished would end up like this...



    ...which can have its charms, but maybe in small doses?



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  • 6 years ago

    D E, here's a pic that shows relationship of trim, window and siding on my installation.


    User thanked seabornman
  • 6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    chicagoans

    here are some rough mockups with corrugated siding, installed vertically. I just used images I found online, so sizing etc may be completely off. This dark grey corrugated looks a lot like your last image (in fact I thought maybe that was a rendering of your house.)

    that black house is #WINNING

    thanks for the visualization. Im leaning heavily towards steel now. Just need to convince the subdivision to allow it :)



    Seabornman, thank you for that window detail. looks super clean. thanks

  • 6 years ago

    seabornman, I'm curious about your climate zone . Where is vapor barrier recommended in your zone?

  • 6 years ago

    Oliviag, I'm in zone 5 (Central New York). My house has the air/vapor/weather barrier on top of the osb sheathing with two layers of 1-1/2" XPS insulation over that. Then the wood furring and siding.

  • 6 years ago

    just_janni

    "My house is insulated concrete panels - so not really a cladding discussion. It's a simple, truthful material, but requires a crap ton of up front planning.

    here's another house with a simple shape but some mixed materials (some quite inexpensive but used creatively)

    https://www.tonic-design.com/projects/weathering-house/?portfolioCats=307"


    sorry, I somehow missed this post.


    Simple and truthful and words that are like music to my ears #thumbsup

    thanks for posting that house. very nice.



  • 6 years ago

    Yes, i expected you were in a very different zone than de

  • 6 years ago

    Oliviag/ bring back Sophie

    "Yes, i expected you were in a very different zone than de"


    what kind of impact would that have?