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Help: Late 1960s Southern California Home has an identity crisis

5 years ago

It's obvious that my home has had a few minor updates throughout the years leaving it wondering what it really wants to be. I'm hoping to get some assistance in finding it's identity.


Since the picture, the palm trees, birds of paradise, and the dated stamped concrete & slate tile hardscape have been removed.


Workers are currently in the process of changing out the cinder block brick on the exterior wall and the wood siding with a smooth stucco.


The plan is to replace the entry gate, exterior windows, to switch out the glass in the front door, and to replace/updated the current tiled roof.


The questions I have, what should I do with


1. The brick columns Do I keep them as is, whitewash, paint the same color as stucco, or simply stucco over them to match the rest of the exterior? All of the fence posts have the same brick.


2. Garage door - match the color style to the stucco or to the front door.


Exterior paint color: Currently leaning towards swiss coffee for the stucco and expresso color for the trim.


Current





Idea 1





Idea 2 (not a fan of Farmhouse - been done too much in the neighborhood)



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The front door is being modified to look similar to this one:



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Comments (22)

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    I would do everything you can to avoid a beige/brown color scheme. I can't see it without thinking dingy, overused and unimaginative.

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  • 5 years ago
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    Patricia - I agree, which is why I'm trying to simplify. MCM = Mid Century Modern? However, the interior is rather traditional. Wainscotting on walls, etc. . If MCM, then remove all of the items I discussed and paint the bricks the same color as walls + remove tile roof?


  • PRO
    5 years ago

    You still have not answered the budget question. To replace that roof will be a huge expense and IMO you can keep it but the rest needs to reworked I do not beleive the interior and exterior of a house have to have the same style.I like the white brick wall it is the only remnant left of what I presume at one time was a MCM exterior.Can you post a pic of the work that has been done so far. Those gates will need to go for sure and I think doing the brick in stucco might be the best idea.I am not seeing siding but often a mix of stucco and wood siding is anice mix.IMO you needed to have designer from the beginning on this project and maybe just stop now and get one before you make as big a mess as the last god knows how many people messed with this house.

  • 5 years ago

    The issue I have with MCM and Coastal Farm House is that every flip in my neighborhood is exactly that (All White with black roof, trim, etc)

  • 5 years ago

    Patricia - my budget is $100K for exterior.

  • 5 years ago

    Patricia - There wasn’t true siding just beadboards (seen over the garage in first picture). That’s since been removed and is about to be finished with smooth stucco to match the rest of the house. The exterior wall is scheduled to be done as well (currently as seen in picture). I’ve never liked the mix match of textures and colors and absolutely hate the ceramic tile roof. Same for the rod iron gate and the stamped concrete hardscaping with the slate tiles.

  • 5 years ago

    Any way to get the original plans? When was the tile roof installed? Is the white brick wall attached to the house? To me, the white brick wall is the MCM add-on and the house started off with a Spanish style. Your inspo pic for the entrance doesn't jibe with the house at all, imo. Leaning much too traditional. You mention flips. Are you flipping this house?

  • 5 years ago

    Gosh, I would keep that beautiful roof and stucco the exterior -- embrace the mediterranean style. If you go MCM there will be a disconnect between the exterior and interior of your home. With your budget I suggest hiring a landscape designer/architect to help you sort out your options. It could be gorgeous so take your time.

  • 5 years ago

    Sounds like you got rid of the best part of your house: the landscaping. How about starting an ideabook of exteriors you like?

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    Limewash the brick to tone it down a bit. Really lovely home.





    Install some wood garage doors

    Add some climbing bougainvillea as an accent on the wall and over the doors.


  • 5 years ago

    Paint the whole thing white and go for a Spanish Colonial look.



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  • 5 years ago

    BeverlyFLADeziner & groveraxle Both of your ideas are directionally where I was thinking. I'm just not a fan of the tile that's on the roof. It's low quality and needs replacing. Spanish Colonial/Santa Barbara look was what I was thinking. It's not my favorite look but it is what would work best for this house. I believe the wall was part of the original house. Every similar house in my neighborhood is being painted white with a black roof like this one (not my favorite look)



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  • 5 years ago

    Your Idea 1 in your original post is the best look, though I wouldn't cover the entrance like they did. And if you don't replace the low quality tile roof with a high quality tile roof, it will lose a lot of the charm of a Spanish Colonial. It'll just look like a white house.

  • 5 years ago

    First task, IMO. Get rid of those square half-columns with the lights on top! They look so fake-pretentious.


    And I totally agree with the bougainvillea.


    Keep the roof for now if it's waterproof, and change it later after you've been there for a while and seriously can't tolerate it. I think it looks fab. Alternatively, if you really want to bring the roof into the 21st century, spend money on solar on the roof (at the back?) and not the roof itself.

  • 5 years ago

    What is the style of the house on the inside? The thing that strikes me most about this is that the roof has Spanish style that to me looks false — nothing else about the house looks Spanish to me. I’d go with a simple black roof and then not touch the brick unless you have reason to believe it’s not original.

  • 5 years ago

    Thanks everyone - I agree with everything that's being said. The exterior of the house is a bit of a Frankenstein. Luckily the Inside isn't as bad and isn't taking much to fix.


  • PRO
    5 years ago

    You don't tear off a $$$ concrete barrel tile roof that is fireproof and replace it with a $ asphalt shingle roof that has no fire resistance. And NO ONE does a black roof in a tropical climate.

    It's true your home is not truly Spanish, but it is Mediterranean in style. You can decide to either push it in that direction or push it in a more contemporary direction. I am in the same situation.

  • 5 years ago

    To me the house looks exactly like 95% of the homes one finds in SoCal - a pseudoSpanish style that is endemic to that area. Stucco, brick, painted brick, wrought iron and tiled roofs are particularly characteristic to that locale, in part or in total.

    If anything, I would work to make it look more Spanish, not less. And I wouldn't touch the tiled roof unless it needed repair.

    I too would focus on the landscaping.....the house looks fine!

  • 5 years ago

    Need more pictures, but the long clean and geometric lines, the brick, the facade above the garage, the geometry of the front of the house, the shape of the roof all point away from SoCal Spanish style. Are there arches and curves? Painted decorative tiles? Tower/turret structure? Exposed wooden ceilings beams? Terra-cotta attic gable vent tubes? Don’t replace a roof just to replace it, but don’t try to force a house into something it’s not. This looks like it has more hints of MCM than anything else. If the roof needs work, the new Tesla roof could be a good way to invest in your house and create a coherent updated style.

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    BeverlyFLADeziner - I agree with you. However, we're probably going to replace the tiles with an updated set (less barrel and more flat). The designer recommended removing most of the hardscape and waiting to decide on the brick until the initial stucco was done. Landscaping is high on my list as well. We're about to extend the 2nd floor 10FT off the back, build a California room where the patio currently is and will be incorporating arches to soften the lines. I feel the final look will be more in-line with the picture you posted. Old picture of the back yard (landscaping has been improved) -