How about Bathshaba?

I have WOH wrapped around an obelisk.. Petals drop cleanly, but don’t last as a cut flower. Does not blow as fast as Heritage. Myrh fragrance. I think the color is a bit blah but it is next to Teasing Georgia and Heritage so it blends in.

TG is great for me and fragrant.

From near to far: Tg, WOH, Heritage, Eden , Sombreuil

Another vote for Spirit of Freedom and Teasing Georgia. I have both and they are very healthy no spray in heavy blackspot pressure. Wollerton Old Hall is brand new to me so no info yet. James Galway is also very healthy so far.

I've yet to meet an Austin rose that I would consider "healthy" here in the Pacific Northwest. They all succumb to Blackspot to some degree. Some spend most of the growing season leafless.

@bayarea_girl_z10a_ca Wow your spirit of freedom looks gorgeous! I am definitely adding that on my list! Your photos should go into a DA catalogue haha

@totoro z7b Md I have considered Bathsheba but I'm not too sure about the shade of orange....I wish I can see it in person before deciding but I don't think there are that many DA roses grown in parks in my area...And the little corner in your garden looks lovely! It must feel amazing sitting in that chair surrounded by roses. How is teasing georgia for rebloom for you?

@dianela7analabama James galway looks lovely as well! Good to know that Spirit of Freedom and Teasing Georgia are both healthy for you. I definitely don't want to have to spray much!

@User If blackspot is an issue for you then I feel like it probably would be an issue for me as I'm just across the border in BC. Do you spray at all? If you do, what do you use? I am wondering if an organic fungicide would be OK if it does get pretty bad....it would be heartbreaking if my roses become leafless!

I have read great things about Jayne Austin and sorely regretted losing my cutting of it this winter.

Deep, cup-shaped blooms that are healthy in your area... I think we might be able to find you some Austin lookalikes to consider!

How important is fragrance? 'Florentina' https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.65521 is a healthy red with cupped blooms, but little to no fragrance. 'Lady in Red' https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.329182 is another red climber (though to my eyes it looks less Austin-y. Still very lovely, but not quite as cupped).

'Kiss Me Kate' is from Kordes Parfuma line and supposedly very fragrant. There's a bunch of pics of her in a few current threads here, and I'm starting to think about getting one myself! https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.73098.1

And how could I forget 'Colette'! https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.17307&tab=1

You're in a much warmer zone than me, so you could probably grow some of the noisette hybrids, teas, or other Old Garden Roses! Hopefully some of our posters who grow these see this thread and can give you some ideas.

Is this a Canadian zone rating or American? There is someone who posts from your area, but perhaps on the Antique Rose Forum.Let me think of his name if no one else does first.

@ac91z6 Ohhh thank you for all those suggestions! I have previously looked into some Kordes roses before but I wasn't quite sure how they behave. I think somebody had mentioned they don't rebloom as well as DAs but maybe it's more dependent on the individual roses. I'll look into those for sure!

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley I looked up my zone rating on the Canadian government's website, I hadn't realized they might be different! I'm very close to the Washington state border but am in a bit of a warmer climate pocket (hence shifting over to 9a in the Canadian hardiness zone map). I'm not sure how to compare the different ratings.....

I don't know where he lives in relation to you, but....... Rideauroselad. You can look up all of the threads he started and comments he's posted.For instance, here is a thread he started last year, South Okanagan, and another on a public garden for which he curates. the roses. Summerland Ornamental Gardens Hope this is of some help.

@Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley Ah he's in Summerland BC, famous for their fruits! That area is both much warmer and colder than where I am because it is further inland, so I am not sure how that would compare to mine....I see he listed his zone as 6a. But maybe he would still be familiar (or knows someone who might be familiar) with my area - thank you for letting me know!

cant really say about TG repeat because I don’t really remember and because it is deep shade and also because I think I have midge problem.

I used to live in Vancouver British Columbia Canada for 6 years. My family still lives there, so I visit often. There is a big, famous rose garden within the Butchart Gardens on Vancouver Island with lots of roses, including climbing roses. I remember they come into full bloom in early June. If you pay a visit, perhaps you can see which ones do well in your area? The climate on the island should be similar to yours. There is a ferry from to Victoria Vancouver Island from Tsawwassen, south of Richmond.

Vancouver is a fairly challenging place to grow roses (compare to California where I live). due to all the rain and humidity, disease pressure is high. Black spots, powdery mildew and also downy mildew are problems there. My mother and sister in law have a considerable number of roses which are plagued by diseases each year. I agree that most Austins which do well in California will struggle there. Knowing which ones do well in your local climate is key.

If you still want a DA rose, cupped, strongly scented - very sweet, and pink, .. with a growth habit similar to Lady of Shalott… then you might want to consider 'Royal Jubilee'.... you won't find it listed as a climber, but it's easy to train as a climbing rose when it takes off, as is Lady of S.. I never had any disease issues here with it..

...here are some photo examples of its growth.. as you can see it wasn't stopping at 8 foot but I didn't have the support for it... I would anticipate here at least 10-12 foot range if supported... all their larger shrub roses can be grown as climbers in your zone.. it has continuous bloom when established and is a fabulous Austin with sufficient space to do its own thing.. it's of Alba heritage apparently..

@Rose Lai (9b) Thank you for the tip on Butchart Garden! Maybe some time in the summer I can go visit....when the province opens up a bit. What do your mother and sister in law grow that are relatively healthier compared to others? Yes rain is indeed a problem here....while I like living here, I do hate all the rain! I have heard of powdery mildew and black spot, but I haven't even looked into downy mildew....I think I'll have a lot to learn about taking care of my roses!

@User Oh I had no idea Royal Jubilee can grow that tall! DA's website just said 5 ft so I assumed it's your ordinary shrub rose....I am so in love with those blooms of yours! Does it rain much in your area? Maybe if it stays healthy in your area it would be sufficiently healthy in mine too...

@Adelaide (Z8b Canada)

..Adelaide... DA shrub roses of 4.5 feet or above, generally have a dual personality... some might use more colourful terms to describe it... in that they can be grown as a shrub, or as a climber.. that choice is with the gardener.. although the rose will often tell you in no uncertain terms, which way they intend to go, like it or lump it... I've grown a number of them as short climbers very easily indeed.. DA's heights are just a guide, transcribed direct from the UK inventory and can often seem ridiculous when you've had the rose a few years.... the only ones I know that perform true for us, are those marked 3.5 feet or lower.. and there aren't many of those..

Unlike the ever popular Gertrude Jekyll... Royal Jubilee has fewer thorns, better foliage and repeats much better..

I am in the driest [if that's the right term] part of England but we get rain, and humidity is nearly always high.. I get my share of black spot such as it is here.. you may have more strains to deal with where you are though... so it's perhaps not wise to take my experience and relate it to yours but it's all trial and error isn't it?... I really want that rose again, I had to remove it due to building work on my property.. I want to grow it again one day, as big as it could get... let the thing rip, you know?... best of luck...

You might find something to try from this thread about black spot resistant roses.

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5751405/what-are-your-most-floriferous-black-spot-resistant-roses-please-share

what is a great thread thanks for posting the link.

Thank you Marlorena and Stephanie! I perused through that thread just now and am slowly getting a pretty good idea of what I think I want....

I think I got sold on Bayarea Girl's Spirit of Freedom for my climber....and I am thinking Roald Dahl and Desdemona if I am to add more small shrubs. Royal Jubilee and WOH will be my backup climbers if I have space for more! Now I just need to find a nursery that sells all these.....I don't think I have seen Spirit of Freedom in the nurseries that I frequent....