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Want a modern living room, dining room; layout ideas needed

5 years ago
last modified: 5 years ago

Hello everyone, we are in the process of purchasing a house (not yet closed) and need ideas of how to layout the entire home. Previous owners had an ornate style with classical/traditional furniture (see photos.)


We plan on switching to a modern theme (no purchases except a modern "sputnik" type lighting fixture, and plan on matching the old sconces by the mantle.) Walls are Venetian plaster which I plan on redoing in cool colors but on the fence since walls are in great shape.


Seeking ideas in furniture layout in the living room, dining room...I do not know the exact dimensions but my approximate room size is about 17.5 feet x 22 feet


Probably a long sofa/2 chairs or retain the a sofa/loveseat/1 chair combination used by previous homeowner although is seems inefficient and sparce. And something to NOT showcase the mantle.


In the dining room, a modern long table for 6-8 guests, possible bench seating?


Help and insight is appreciated, thank you.










Comments (27)

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Without seeing your furniture I have no idea. What is there now is pretty impossible to even imagine the space differently. IMO venitian plaster not really a wall finish for a modern space . I wonder if you textured walls and not venetian plaster at all. The floors are spectacular . My eye keepes going to those horrible drapes that are so not working with all that over the top decor. IMO you need to wait until you are in there to really get help. I hate loveseats so no help there , there is nothing sparce about what is there now.

  • 5 years ago
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    Thank you for your comments. Haha, the present furniture is so large and unnecessary I do agree sparce is not the word it conjures. I meant the current setup just seems out of place and not cohesive and put together.

    The only thing we do have is a large oriental rug (10'x12') in blue, but do not have to use it here



    Do not have any other pieces but wishlist off the web:

    Potentially for the main seating, behind the baywindow, a large grand sofa



    And across, a set of chairs



    A pair of benches in front of the mantle (to hide it)



    a large coffee table



    And no idea about what to do with the window dressings except to rip out the hideous curtains

  • 5 years ago
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    It is venetian plaster, it is in great condition, I agree it's not modern though. Would like to have plain white walls but I wonder if we can avoid sanding the texture off and just primer and paint it bright white.

    Already have the light fixture



    Need a credenza/buffet against the back wall, i.e.


    and a large table


    with modern set of chairs



  • 5 years ago

    Things to ask yourself:

    - What will I use the room for? How many people will use the room?

    - How do I want the room to feel? Light and airy? Dark and cozy?


    If you want to work with the existing ornate fireplace, see this link for some inspiration https://stylebyemilyhenderson.com/blog/introducing-modern-victorian-home


    pirantula thanked RTHawk
  • 5 years ago

    OMG...that chevron wood flooring is gorgeous!!! Fireplace mantel/existing wall sconces have to go if you want modern furnishings, unless you want it to look like a modern Parisian apartment!?!Twin sofas across from each other and centered on the fireplace feels right, with a rug big enough to fit underneath at least a foot of the front of each sofa. If there is enough length in the “Living” room, two chairs near the fireplace would work, with possibly an animal skin between them on floor. A big modern dining table that fits the “Dining” space, with 4/5 fully slipcovered modern dining chairs and a long bench on the Living” room side of the table would work nicely. The main consideration is to choose furniture that is the right scale for the room. If possible, measure the actual room space/features and draw it out on grid paper (1/4” = 1’) and then figure out the right size of the sofas and table, allowing enough clearance for traffic flow through the room and around the dining table/chairs.

    pirantula thanked Susan
  • 5 years ago
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    Many will gasp, but for a more contemporary look, stain the floors dark; even black or a smoky charcoal. Otherwise, you'll always feel like you're in a historic castle or manor.

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  • 5 years ago

    Yup, I gasped at decoenthusiaste's ^^ suggestion of staining the floors, but my, those inspo pics she posted are gorgeous!!!!!

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Kudos to you for seeing beyond the current home owner's furniture. What a gem!

    Honestly, it sounds like you already have a clear and functional vision for the layout of the space. Everything you listed above is what I would suggest for layout.

    Love the contradictory modern vs. traditional vibe you've got going on here. As for window treatments, to continue with a clean modern feel against ornate details, what about sleek dark roller shades?



    Please post photos when you're done!

  • 5 years ago

    Since you have a long dining room table, an elongated chandelier might work better than a spherical shape whilst still retaining the MCM feel.


    https://www.wayfair.com/lighting/pdp/george-oliver-dingman-7-light-sputnik-modern-linear-chandelier-w000399799.html?piid=630306869


  • 5 years ago
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    Partim, to really fix it, unfortunately would need to be demolished and rebuilt, which I would do as a last resort, I like the charcoal idea.

    No need for a TV here, this would be a formal room. There is a family room behind this room which will house a TV (see pic).

    Chair may be uncomfortable, but not for daily use. Will look for something more cushioned nonetheless.


    RTHawk, the space will be more formal and so that Modern Victorian style would work, I really like it.


    Susan, the floors are gorgeous, actually so Is the Venetian plaster but the pictures don’t show it well. Yes, the phantom of the opera sconces have to go back to 1820. Will put a modern fixture instead, to match the new chandelier (pics above). I think the space is big enough to house chairs in front of the fireplace, small ones. Will measure the space properly when we can go back in.


    Decoenthusiaste, and PaulaA, the dark floors do look gorgeous and the family room does have a dark stain so maybe we will employ that room for a darker stain.


    GloEuropean, thank you for the support. Those roller shades look good. Would you add anything further besides the rollers?


    Lulu, I see your point, the theme is the same as the one I’ve bought already so would work.



  • 5 years ago
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    Maybe one of these instead?




  • 5 years ago
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    There are a couple of placement possibilities.

    As I look at the space, from an Eastern Feng Shui perspective, I am first looking for a wall where the sofa can be anchored. Since there does not appear to be a window free wall available in current living room, I think might consider switching living room and dining room spaces, and instead have dining by the fireplace.

  • 5 years ago

    Freedomplace1, thats a very interesting idea I would have never thought of, food for thought

  • 5 years ago

    The Venetian plaster walls needn’t be traditional at all an if they are in great condition I would consider having them looked at. You can add another color to them or have them polished and waxed to a high shine. Don’t let the strange furnishings in the space now determine what you do with the walls just yet! Once you paint over them it’s too late but at this stage you can make them glorious!

    pirantula thanked lynartist
  • 5 years ago

    Be aware that a very dark floor shows every speck of dust. Been there, done that and wouldn't ever have one again.

    I agree with Susan . Think Parisian apartment. Or London, or Dublin. Combine modern with the traditional elements already in the room for a look that is much more interesting than a 100% modern room. https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/28147566395742204/?nic_v1=1aYpo%2B2LEzjS4U0g4eY8iw7clotDdzQXJuGrWKlFLzfptCuLnc8yUUo7ap8zYbBGqO

  • PRO
    5 years ago
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    What is really beautiful about real venetian plaster is that sheen so painting would lose that . Could you post a close up of the plaster? I do agree the chairs look a bit uncomfortable and there were some shown that would be better IMO.

  • 5 years ago
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    Patricia, unfortunately I do not have access to the property until we close, original homeowner is still living/packing. Here is a picture from the foyer which has a better idea of what is the wall situation throughout the entire house.



    Lynartist, we are having the same issue with the Venetian Plaster. Color is too "warm" but it is in great shape. It is not as shiny as the pictures posted above. I did not know it was possible to go over it and change the color and retain the marblesque designs. Was thinking of whitewashing it myself, knowing it would ruin the beauty of the current walls. Now will have to get more info from a professional painter to see what they can do, but rest assured we will not rush into painting as I was thinking.

  • 5 years ago

    You need to get a consult with a qualified decorative artist/ Venetian plaster artist; not a painter. If these walls have not been waxed and are only lightly burnished they can be gone over with another color to create a beautiful marbled effect. Get a quote.

  • 5 years ago

    Lynartist, thank you for the heads up. Will have to find a qualified professional in Queens is anyone knows of one.

  • 5 years ago
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    Warm + cool colors can work together. And grey for wall color is really not the panacea that it once was. But grey is not going anywhere and can be beautiful in design, of course.

    Combining greys with beige/tan/brown, etc. can actually lend an organic feel to a space. These colors in combination can be found in the shore nature palette.








  • 5 years ago

    Be aware that warm colours are coming back. It's an inevitable cycle as our eyes tire of what we've seen for a long time and other things look fresh and new.

    Don't get rid of this just as the cool colours are going out of style!

  • 5 years ago
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    Everyone has been great so let me jump to the kitchen. Very functional, do not want to rip out the kitchen, but what about changing the cabinet color to white? I think it may not go with the emerald/green marble counters. Would change the light fixtures though



  • 5 years ago

    That is beautiful wood, not your standard builder stuff. I'd change other things in the room before I'd paint that.

    Live in this house for awhile before making a lot of changes.

  • 5 years ago
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    Agree with lynartist get someone knowledgeable in to look at the walls. Shifting the color used makes a huge difference. I would not have the walls smoothed or made shiny. But there are all sorts of ways to approach this and end up with a great looking home.

    Consider moving the functions of the two spaces. A modern dining area with a fireplace, even such an ornate one, could be spectacular and marry well with a more intimate USED space for conversations, drinks, and even just solo book readin'! Making the switch would also de-emphasize the fireplace and allow it to look its very best. A bit of a paradox but look at many old European houses and you'll see it again and again.

    My other preference would be to have a wood refinisher take down the shine on the floor.

    Congratulations and I hope you let us know how this progresses.

  • 5 years ago

    Freedomplace1, and Partim, did not know about the change in color trends, that is good news for us, really did a 180 and want to appreciate the walls for what they are.


    Just like Freedomplace1 suggested swapping the dining a living, I also like Hollybar's observation that it would uniquely enhance the mantle we were trying to hide, 2 birds with one stone.


    It is a very nicely built house and our concern and thus want of changing things was that it was looking old, but we really should reevaluate once the old furniture is all out and as Partim said, live in it a while. We cannot wait to start living but unfortunately everything is slowed down because of Covid. Thank you everyone, will let you guys know of the progress as we go.

  • 5 years ago

    Pirantula, I agree switching the spaces of the dining room and family room sounds like a cool option. For painting there is a guy named Jesus at Paints-a-Lot off of Cassat Ave that might be able to help you out. He has an assistant named Jimmy that is also good at cleaning.