I I removed the old cast iron tub. I am adding a simple apron tub, as well as a tub surround on two sides and building a wall behind the tub so we can shower standing up. (See pic)
I do not want to remove the plaster since plaster is mold proof. I just want to make the plaster water proof.
I'm afraid that if I remove the plaster wall it will lead me onto a rabbit's trail of new repairs.
If it ain't broke, I don't want to fix it.
How do I install the tub directly onto the existing plaster wall?
I also want to build a wall behind the tub so we can shower standing up.
Don't beat me up over removing the tub. It was missing a foot. I could not find one. And leaking all over the wood floor. Hubby and boys to big for shower. Need a full shower.
Comments for pics will be below each picture.
This is my solution for hiding the plumbing and adding
a full shower so we can stand up.
I do not want to tear down any plaster behind the tub.
It is very sturdy.
There will be a tub surround behind the tub and to the left of the tub.
I will be leaving the right of the tub open, adding a knee wall so we don't
lose any natural light coming from the window on the right.
The shower curtain rod on top will be removed.
This is the old tub. It has three legs and leaks everywhere when we shower.
It is gone forever now.
Sorry I am not really getting the issue. The walls need to be tile or some kind of water proof material not just a shower curtain. The new tub looks like it has a tile flange so tiling the walls is probably the best choice. You need to build the wall first then install the tub forget the goofy shower curtain rail and use a shower screen instead .
Thanks for your comment.
The shower curtain is a before pic. Notice the old tub is still there. I want to waterproof the plaster wall with a waterproof paint of some sort. Then attach the tub to the wall. And finally, add the pieces of surround to the side and back. I want to leave the window side open and have a knee wall there.
Also you mentioned a tile flange. UH OH! So my tub surround won't work with that. Maybe I should return the tub and find one that will work with a surround?
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You‘ve got a big disconnect as to what this project really is.
Who told you that plaster is mold proof? That’s the dumbest thing ever. Ever.
Of course you have to gut this all and start over when you put in a new tub. No wood windows in a shower. Ever. That window has to be replaced with fiberglass, or vinyl, or glass block, or covered over inside and out. The plaster has to all come off, and the walls repaired from the mold that you will find inside them, then insulated, then the cladding overlaps correctly with the tiling flange. Everything then needs proper waterproofing. Only then it can be tiled.
Here are the industry standards. No one should touch this who doesn’t own a copy and understand it. https://www.tcnatile.com/products-and-services/publications/218-english-publications/188-handbook/968-2020-tcna-handbook-for-ceramic-glass-and-stone-tile-installation.html
No clueless handymen. Find skill, or pay the big price for water damage. I’m still aghast that someone told you that plaster was mold proof.
Thank you for your candor. And for beating me up.
But I did research as much as I could. And am stuck at installing the tub to the wall. I don't want the wall removed if at all possible.
First. Plaster is mold proof as long as I don't add drywall over it. Here is a link for you. https://lookmold.com/detect/can-mold-grow-on-plaster#:~:text=Mold%20does%20not%20grow%20on%20plaster%20because%20plaster%20is%20non,can%20grow%20on%20the%20drywall.
As for the window in the shower. My shower will be all the way to the left of the window. As you can see in this image. The window is even closer than mine would be.
And yes. I do have a carpenter doing the work. But I like to research and learn how to do things.
I am quite handy but am aware of my limitations.
Learning without being judged is a GOOD thing.
“A carpenter” without any license and pulling no permits is not qualified to be doing this. You’re in way over your head. With one of the Stooges on board. And I’m not talking Iggy. Find an actually qualified professional.
Your internet bunkum site is not correct. I assure you that plaster can have mold grow on it, in it, and through it, into the wood framing behind it. I’ve owned enough old homes in not great shape to have personal experience with that.
There’s just too much else wrong here to unpack it all. Starting with the assertion that moving the tub over in front of the window in order to create a wall to the left won’t have the window inside the tub. That’s ones a head scratcher. The bottom line is that you can’t wish and hope that industry standards are not industry standards, and that water won’t be wet. If you move forward, the cost of the water damage will far outweigh the cost of hiring someone licensed with a clue.
I recommend interviewing a few local tile contractors. The picture of the shower; is a showroom, will not work because the ceiling is not tiled. Sometimes, pictures are advertising for the plumbing fixtures.......mock ups....not real life.
The flange must go directly against the studs, with the cement board over it. This job is not possible to do without removing the existing plaster, or removing the shower, and changing the tub to a tub only. You’ll just end up funneling water into your walls otherwise. Which is what will happen around the window.
If the dimension with the ? is at least 36”, then you can build a standard shower, with a wall at the edge of the window, and relocate the plumbing there. That requires just as extensive a remodel as trying to install the tub shower, but at least there’s no window inside a shower that way.
This job is not doable without demolition and rebuilding.
Let’s see if we can get this figured out for you. Are you installing the new tub or are you installing a shower like the tiled example you posted?
@Jim Mat: What did you mean by this? “The picture of the shower; is a showroom, will not work because the ceiling is not tiled.” 🤔
The ceiling appears to be Sheetrock, with a rain shower fixture and no vents.
if you are using a desktop, I am not, you may be able to view the source of the image. I suspect it is from a vendor.
This bathroom is here houselogic and alleged to be a real bathroom but I tend to agree with Jim that this appears staged.
The shower head is coming out of the wall. I’m not sure why you think it looks staged.
Have you given up, @Celia Horter? Some of us are willing/wanting to help you (well, I am, at least).