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Can a medicine cabinet fit in this space?

5 years ago

Hoping to add a small (narrow) medicine cabinet to our new master bathroom. During our remodel last year, our G.C. resisted installing one, saying he couldn't because it was an exterior/load-bearing wall. I remember asking if a surface-mounted cabinet would work if a recessed would not, but he seemed uncomfortable with either type. He's been remodeling bathrooms for 30 years, so I didn't question it.

But now wondering...is there a reason we couldn't surface mount a narrow cabinet on the back wall? There's only 16" between the tiled wall and the door edge (wall itself is 15.5" wide). Kohler makes a 15" wide cabinet. Would that work, or do we need a little more room to install it?

Also, is it a problem that there is electrical running up inside that wall? (bottom photo)

Thanks!





Comments (35)

  • 5 years ago

    Here's the Kohler medicine cabinet I'm considering (smallest I can find).

    Kohler Surface Mount Maxstow 15x24"

  • 5 years ago

    *Can* a medicine cabinet fit? Yeah, probably. Would you really *want* a medicine cabinet there? Hard to tell. Can you post a diagram of the layout of the entire bathroom, and tell us more about why you want a medicine cabinet there? Think about the way the medicine cabinet door would open - up against the tile, most likely. I might see if I can find on that lifts up from the bottom, if you really do want one there.

    Mittens Cat thanked Carrie B
  • 5 years ago
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    @Carrie B The spot is about 28" from my husband's side of the vanity, and though we have plenty of drawer space in the vanity, my husband tends to keep a few quite a few things on the counter (electric toothbrush, various bottles/tubes of products), so getting that clutter off the counter and into an easy to reach cabinet is my ulterior motive.

    A large wall mirror is being installed (between the lights) next month. I tried to talk hubby into two medicine cabinets over the sinks instead, but he really likes the look of one big mirror to open up the space (the bathroom is on the narrow side).



  • 5 years ago

    I totally agree with you that two smaller medicine cabinets is a *way* better idea. Not just functionally, but I think they'd look a lot better than a big mirror, too.

    Mittens Cat thanked Carrie B
  • 5 years ago

    1) I have no idea why a contractor would tell you you couldn't mount a shallow medecine cabinet on that wall. It just has to fit in the stud space and allow a little bit of room at the back for the wiring. Or you could surface mount whatever you wanted.

    2) However, I agree that the best solution is a pair of surface mount cabinets on the wall with mirrors. There are plenty of clean-looking ones readily available that would complement that beautiful wall.

    Mittens Cat thanked kudzu9
  • 5 years ago

    A recessed cabinet on an exterior wall would mean that there's no insulation there. I don't see an issue with a surface mount one though.

    Mittens Cat thanked greg_2015
  • 5 years ago

    I agree. Get the two medicine cabinets. Much classier than a big useless mirror

    Mittens Cat thanked cpartist
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks all.

    I guess we are (tragically?) Old School Modern, as we do prefer the clean, no-frills look of a large unframed mirror such as this:


  • 5 years ago

    Also, I did read somewhere that you shouldn't install a recessed cabinet in a load-bearing wall. Maybe that was just code here in California? That, I think, was the main issue in our G.C.'s mind. California contractors, I'd love to hear from you!

  • 5 years ago

    Well, you put doors and windows in load bearing walls. Frame it the same if necessary and install the recessed cabinets. Of course it would have been easier to plan for it during construction.

    Mittens Cat thanked mainenell
  • 5 years ago

    You can get mirrored front recessed medicine cabinets without frames mounted on the long wall right next to each other so they look like one large mirror. I have seen them up to 60 " wide.

    Mittens Cat thanked loobab
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    @loobab, @mainenell...true!!

    FWIW, one of the things I read (with proper skepticism):

    Installing Medicine Cabinets in Load Bearing Walls.


  • 5 years ago

    That link just says you need to know what you are doing if you are going to cut studs in a load bearing wall. Which is true, you can't just cut the studs and hope for the best.

    But in your case, you aren't cutting studs, you would just be putting it into an empty space. Except that space is probably filled with insulation, so you can't do it. It isn't empty. Unless you live in a region that is mild all year around and you don't need insulation.

    Mittens Cat thanked greg_2015
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    I’m not sure how often the door next to it will be used ... my husband tends to slam every door he closes. Not on purpose, he just does. If we had a medicine cabinet next to an exterior door, nothing would ever be upright in it. 😄

    Mittens Cat thanked Jilly
  • 5 years ago
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    @greg_2015, Thanks, yes, there is insulation in that wall, but we live in coastal SoCal, so could easily do without that one square foot of insulation! (We actually had zero insulation in the house before remodeling!) Not sure what spooked our G.C. so much. He also didn't want to put one in the other bathrooms, one of which is an interior wall.

    @Jilly, lol, fortunately that door isn't one that slams (the door to the garage however...!) :)

    Actually, I did find this narrow Cubiko storage mirror that might work on that wall, if only I could figure out a way to turn the black into a brushed silver to match our fixtures...(spray paint?).

    I like that this one is just 12" wide by 5" deep and has just enough storage space for the few things that he uses every day. Also, no worry of opening a cabinet door into the overhead light.


    Cubiko Mirror and Storage Unit · More Info



  • 5 years ago
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    @kudzu9, thanks, as I mentioned a couple comments up, we had zero insulation for 20+ years before we remodeled, so not too worried about losing a tiny bit of it! :) My guess is something happened in our G.C.'s past involving this issue and it has spooked him ever since. Every time I tried to talk to him about it, he bristled a little and tried to change the subject. It was weird, especially since he was so quick to come up with creative solutions to so many other problems during the project, but I just figured he's the expert and knows the local code, so...

    Who'd think trying to find a place a stash one electric toothbrush and a few random bottles of hair gunk could cause such consternation! :-D

  • 5 years ago

    Mittens-

    I think you diagnosed it correctly: He had some unfortunate experience — I can’t imagine what it could have been, though — and he’s sour on the idea. Inexplicable to me if he is otherwise competent and creative....

    Mittens Cat thanked kudzu9
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    @kudzu9: True!

    OK, very tempted to bail on the proper medicine cabinet idea and instead buy the $80 Cubiko Storage Mirror shown above and give it a good coat of Rustoleum Metallic Spray Paint in Titanium Silver to blend in with our brushed metal fixtures.

  • 5 years ago

    I think the storage cabinet is a great idea without a big investment.

    Mittens Cat thanked Kate
  • 5 years ago

    We use a narrow cabinet like below and it meets all of our needs - use holders, trays and baskets.

    Something like this could fit on the left of your sink (move towel rack) and will provide more storage than a medicine cabinet. Your husband can take the closest sink and will be more apt to use being so convenient.


    Mittens Cat thanked Maureen
  • 5 years ago

    Thanks @Maureen I've looked at dozens of storage towers, but have not found any that 1) blend well with our modern look, and 2) blend seamlessly in the space (without adding more visual clutter). There probably are some in the high-end range, but I'm not feeling very spendy, post-remodel!

    We have four large drawers in our Godmorgon vanity that should take care of all our storage needs. There's something about putting wet toothbrushes in a drawer, though...ew. I also tried a number of toothbrush holders, wall-mounted and otherwise, but none do anything to reduce the clutter.

    Really, this is kinda nuts to fret over where to put toothbrushes. First World Problems, no question! :-/


  • 5 years ago

    What is all this fuss about insulation - isn't this an outside wall? Anyway, I'm assuming this would be mounted above the switches. If it were my cabinet, I would add a receptacle inside the cabinet where I could plug in a rechargeable toothbrush, razor, or whatever.

    Mittens Cat thanked mtvhike
  • 5 years ago

    mtvhike- An outside wall is precisely the place you want insulation, but the fuss is over something that has negligible impact in terms of energy efficiency.

    Mittens Cat thanked kudzu9
  • 5 years ago

    No fuss here! I'm new to insulation, lol. :->

    Any ballpark ideas how much someone would charge to install a recessed cabinet?

  • 5 years ago
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    Sorry, Kudzu (and everyone else), I misspoke this does NOT appear to be on an outside wall. If you make a recessed cabinet, the wiring visible in your photo might have to be moved.

    Mittens Cat thanked mtvhike
  • 5 years ago

    @mtvhike, if you're referring to my bathroom wall, it is a wall that has an exterior side.

  • 5 years ago

    mtvhike— I don’t see an issue with the wiring. It has enough slack that it can be pushed to the back of the cavity and take up very little space.

    Mittens Cat thanked kudzu9
  • 5 years ago

    Mittens: I was referring to the exposed wall in the pictures, next to the door. I assumed that was yours.

    Mittens Cat thanked mtvhike
  • 5 years ago

    Sorry @mtvhike, I was thinking of kudzu's comment of another wall

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    this Cubiko mirror is very masculine and you don't have to open the wall for this but will you be comfortable knowing the opening might clash with door?

    Mittens Cat thanked Larece Associates
  • 5 years ago

    @Larece Associates, perhaps I'm not clear what you mean, but the Cubiko is just 12" wide and has no door, so no chance of bumping the exterior door. Or, perhaps you meant clash as in the black metal clashing with the brushed silver door handle? I would get a can of this Rustoleum metallic spray paint and turn the black to silver.

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Yes. A medicine cabinet can fit in that space. Look for brands that offer customizable sizing options. For example there are options for a 12" wide that you gange together from bottom to top. Or one long 5 foot one that is 14" wide. You can buy one that is only 4 inches deep or if you have room with the electrical, 6 inches deep could work. If you surface mount it, and also have it open on the left hinge (some medicine cabinets offer interchangeable left or right door hinging), it won't obstruct the door on the right.

    Mittens Cat thanked SIDLER®
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    @SIDLER®, holy moly, OK, I'm bracing myself for price of a custom-made medicine cabinet! Let's hear it? Say...12" wide by 20" high?

  • PRO
    5 years ago

    Mittens Cat - It actually does not cost as much as you think. I, unfortunately, can't give you any pricing off the top of my head, but I know its not as costly as you may think. What is your budget range?

    The only suggestion I have is just research some common well-known brands on google that offer this customized option, get pricing. Or go to your local kitchen and bath store, and ask them what to suggest.

    Mittens Cat thanked SIDLER®