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Cabinet installation filler question

2 months ago

We are getting ready to install cabinets. We have a 24x90 tall pantry that will be next to a wall. With a 30x36 upper wall next to that and base below that. We have 3inch 96 length filler that was provided. We plan to rip that down to 1.5. So my question is we attach the filler to pantry then do we need to attach the filler to wall ? Then we could use the other half of the Filler to attach to the 30 upper do we then just Screw the upper and pantry face frames together or do we also screw through the face frame and filler to the frame of the pantry ?

we have grk cabinet screws 2 1/2 for the wall studs and 1 1/4 for face frames.

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PRO
HALLETT & Co.
2 months ago
Filler only has to be attached to the pantry, but I’d be very surprised if the wall is perfectly plumb and flat. The other two fillers get attached to the wall and base cabinets first then you screw through the pantry cabinet into the filler to tie it together from that side as well.
Iammcfly Ann
Original Author
2 months ago
We are double checking but it seems to be pretty close on the wall. Do we attach the filler with the 1 1/4 screws ? I assume so.
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Ok, I was confused when you mentioned a 9" full length pullout because I have seen people who have put cabinets directly on counters on either side of the stove. Is it possible to just have a slightly wider base cabinet in lieu of the filler? It might look less different. than having a 3" and 9" pull out. It's a tough call - I just finished a remodel with the help of a designer and whenever I wanted to do something with cabinets that would have not been symmetrical, she "vetoed" it and I just went with her advice since I don't really have a lot of visual imagination in terms of envisioning spatial stuff. Is it possible for your cabinet person to supply you with a rendering - I had my designer do this for a lot of stuff when there were choices as it was impossible for me to picture stuff simply from verbal descriptions. In terms of function, what you want to do makes absolute sense. On the other hand, in terms of spice storage, a drawer with those spice inserts which has them stacked lying down is IMO more functional than a pull out because all your spices are easily readable and accessible versus having some lower down.
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JuneKnow
2 months ago
last modified: 2 months ago
You scribe to the wall countour first. That is one of the purposes of using a filler. It starts things off with a straight edge to butt the cabinets to. The other purpose of fillers is for clearance. If that pantry has roll out trays, and it should, you need all 3”, in order for the door to open wide enough for the trays to clear the door. Then you’ll need a filler overlay on top of that to flush out the depth.
Iammcfly Ann
Original Author
2 months ago
so the side that goes against wall is cut uneven to match wall ? We do not have plans for pullout trays in the pantry. These cabinets are actually in basement as a walk up entertainment bar area.
JuneKnow
2 months ago
Yes, one of the filler’s purpose is to not have gaps against the wavy wall. It’s scribed to fit the wall.

You’ll regret not having roll outs. Deep storage in a pantry is hard to access without them.
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Patricia Colwell Consulting
2 months ago
last modified: 2 months ago
Even better are true pull out pantries for max stroage and ease of use.But as for the fillers yes they need to be scribed to fit the wall perfectly.

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