Yes, I wondered about that also. Those cards would be pretty easy to fake. I can access my vaccine record through the state DOH website and that seems like a more secure way to provide proof of vaccine.

Whoa sas95 I do hope that doesn't roll out to other states. That's a bridge too far even for me.

Why do you say that DLM? I don't understand. To me all it means is I can prove I am fully vaccinated.

California has it and I got my scan code yesterday, or rather, I can access it online from any device. I carry my original card with me, have scanned copies at home and one on my phone. I'm not worried about "the system" but I do want to have solid proof of my vaxxed status.

The info is already in your state’s database so I don’t see a problem with employers being able to access it or for people to have a digital barcode from the state health dept proving vaccination. In fact, it should be a national database.

I keep a copy in my wallet and took a picture with my phone, but having a barcode I think would prevent fake cards.

sas I don't want my information in a(nother) digital system like that for starters. I have no objection to businesses choosing to require a passport. There is a great deal of inequity inherent in a digital passport as well.

^^^ The information is already in your state's digital system.

Well good to hear there are some steps being taken to ensure authenticity. Without it the whole concept won't be very effective.

terriks that's true, but a venue scanning a bar code is totally different. Where does that info that I went into xyz restaurant or let's say a political rally for candidate abc go?

If you carry a smartphone in your purse and have a few apps, you are already being tracked everywhere you go.

Saw some reports about fake cards at UNC Chapel Hill.

As a vaccine trial participant, I wrote the state system to check if we are but we are NOT included in the state database. This was so I could be in the lottery, LOL.

Anyone with a cell phone or smartwatch/Fibit is being tracked everywhere.

LiveNation is likely to institute a proof of vaccination or negative test requirement.

We were jabbed in Texas, but live in California- DH had a work issue to deal with in Austin. I hope this is not going to be complicated for us. I have read the procedure we have in place in Ca for people in this circumstance, fingers crossed it goes smoothly. Though getting rejabbed wouldn't be terrible ;-) Except for DH and DS4 who were both seriously unwell for three days after the jab.

Zalco, my Vaccination card was issued by the the CDC. There is no mention of my State or County.

My BIL’s business partner, fully-vaccinated, just let him know he has Covid now, and was letting BIL know since they were in close contact last week. At this point, they need to stop calling them ”breakthrough cases” since people are not immune who got the vaccine. His business partner got pretty sick. So far, BIL doesn’t have it yet.

Maddielee, mine is from the CDC as well, but California apparently has its own database of people who have been jabbed. According to the website my husband consulted this morning, California will querry Texas and then issue the official document used for gaining admission to venues.

Two Canadians fined for using fake vaccine cards to travel.

PS my card shows which jab I received , the date, and the healthcare professional or clinic site which provided it on the same line. These jabs are being tracked by Texas and California, I don't know how other states are working.

I seriously doubt my vaccination information is in my state’s digital system. i signed up for two vaccinations on two different portals and received my vaccinations in two different counties. The only proof I have is the CDC card given to me. There was no QR code. I wish Oklahoma had an app that I could put on my phone so that I could easily use it when asked for proof since that would be preferable to a photo of the card.

My county health department took information from us before our first shot. We had to complete the online form before setting our first appointments. They then contacted us to schedule our second injections. So yes there is a digital record of our vaccinations.

I have no idea what information needs to be supplied when receiving the vaccinations at other sites.

We registered for/made the appointment for the jab online through the pharmacy where we received the shot.

I could be wrong but I assume every state’s health dept has a record of your shots whether you got them at a pharmacy, a pop-up clinic, through your health system, etc. They must have reported them, how else would states have the statistics of how many are vaccinated? Same for hospitalizations, tests, and deaths.

I don’t know of anyone who got their shots in two different places because typically when you got the first shot they set up the appointment for the second shot to make sure you get it on time and you get the same brand. Otherwise you’d have to go searching for other venues offering the same brand and hope you could get an appt at the 3-4 week mark.

When i received my first shot they handed me the CDC card and instucted me to go online and find the second shot when I needed it. At many sites they did not schedule the second shot—it was every person for herself. I spent hours online locating a second shot. Every state had different protocols.

I'm a Kaiser member but they didn't have the vaccine in the early days, so I got mine at a different venue. I submitted all that info to Kaiser so it's now in their system and in my records. I'm happy to share that info with whomever needs to know.

I was able to schedule our first and second appointments at the same time on a local pharmacy website. it also showed which vaccine was given each day, so i was able to choose which vaccine we received. Yes, paperwork was filled out at first appointment and i feel sure the info was registered into a state database.

When I got my shots in NYC if you got the shots at a State site, NYC didn't know that and if you got the shots at a NYC site, the State didn't know. Of course, this was in January/February, before pharmacies and doctors' offices were providing vaccines. I am not sure, but I think they still don't know. They both have apps now. I do not carry my card or have the app. I have not had to prove vaccination to anyone yet. Surprisingly, I have had many medical appointments and no one has asked if I am vaccinated.

ccrunner—-that’s awful you were left to figure it out on your own—especially if you couldn’t get an appt for the second dose on time.

I got my digital vaccination code at this California site. It was easy to get the bar code image, but a bit trickier to save it to my phone. I ended up emailing the page to myself, and then I could save the image, but I was also able to do a screenshot from my computer and save the image that way. Also, I could right click on the code and save the image that way as well.

So now I have multiple copies of my vaccination code, both on my computer, my email, and my phone. I look forward to vaccination passport requirements. I prefer not to mingle with the unvaccinated.

If people can choose not to get vaccinated, I can choose to keep my distance from them.

Thats odd, hcbm. I am in the NYC suburbs and not only have I been asked about my vaccine status at every medical appointment, I have had to provide the type of shot and the date of my second one.

Since the federal government is a paying for the shots, I would imagine all the personal ID gathered by the pharmacy, health department, insurance company, etc. is passed on in the billing process.

I don’t know of anyone who got their shots in two different places because typically when you got the first shot they set up the appointment for the second shot to make sure you get it on time and you get the same brand.

We got our first shot when they first opened it up to to our age group, and it was about 25 minutes away, and DH and I were at 2 diff pharmacies. When we saw availability at a new drive thru closer to us, we cancelled our 2nd shots at the first spot and moved to the drive in spot. The VAMS system has the 2nd shot but not the first.

Worse yet, my first shot was given at a Walgreen's that ran out of cards, so they made cards by making a copy, on regular paper of course.

I have my California QR code. It apparently adheres to a open-source standard used by some of the systems.

For those in Oklahoma, it appears that Oklahoma indeed has a central database, where you can access your record (if it is there): OSIIS is the Oklahoma State Immunization Information System

Apparently if you enrolled in VacSafe you can also get it form the CDC.

Gooster, i am totally shocked! I completed the online form and received a 4-page vaccination record which includes the vaccinations from two different sites.

No QR code or bar code but if I ever lose my CDC card I still have proof.

Thank you!

Oklahoma has kept really good stats of Covid breakdown (except naturally immune, of course) that is helpful information of infected with Covid 19 and the Delta variant etc. Updated every week.

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/en/covid19/documents/weekly-epi-report/2021.08.04%20Weekly%20Epi%20Report.pdf

Wouldn't "natural immunity" be reported in cases and recovered cases at some point? I'm assuming you are referring to acquired immunity as natural immunity. @OllieJane

Tina, did you see acquired immunity in the Oklahoma stats? If so, I missed that. I will have to go back and look again.

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Tina, I'm confused? I'm apparently not up on my emoji's? Can you actually type what your emoji is trying to tell me? LOL I truly don't know what you are referring to. Are you just asking "IS acquired immunity the same thing as natural immunity?" But, if you aren't serious about knowing, I don't want to waste my time with emoji's.

I was able to get my daughter's digital code (California), kinda like a QR code but not, but somehow they didn't manage to connect my vax record with my phone number or email so I haven't been able to retrieve mine (maybe because I used my contact info for my daughter's appointment, too, and she was first because her school got her a priority code. Probably the same reason she got a reminder and a link to online forms for her 2nd appointment and I didn't.). Anyway, I had to navigate a website and provide all the info from my physical card so that I can hopefully get my code. They said it would take a few weeks.

So here I see that 2/3 of Oklahomans over 65 are fully V’d. That 2/3 made up 18% of recent hospitalizations.

The remaining 1/3 who were not V’d made up 23.6% of recent hospitalizations.

So twice as many people (Vd) made up substantially fewer hospitalizations.

In the most at risk age group, you’re more than twice as likely to be hospitalized without the V.

Although I’d prefer to see even fewer V’d in hospital, this tracks with what we know about the jab efficacy being reduced against Delta but still quite protective. IMO based on this data it should be considered part of a multi pronged approach along with masking and physical distancing.

In communities with much higher V rates, delta may not be able to gain so much of a foothold or spread so readily so masks and distancing may be less needed.

@OllieJane I am quite sure you can tell that emoji is "rolling eyes". I felt your response to me was sarcastic since you answered my question with a question. If I am wrong about that, then I sincerely apologize. I know what acquired immunity is, but what are you referring to as natural immunity (regarding covid)?

PS - Thank you Robo.

There is a difference between vaccine acquired immunity and immunity acquired through a covid infection. They are finding that vaccine immunity is broader and therefore more effective against mutations. However, the strength of each type of immunity depends on the response of the individual's immune system, which is highly variable across a large population with a diversity of people with a diversity of health issues and biochemical makeup.

I haven't been following the stats of other states, but interesting to see that in Robo's stats, people under 65 made up roughly 58% of hospitalizations. Of the people I know who died from covid, half were over 65 and half under. One was a pregnant woman who worked at a friend's school in Chicago. She went into premature labor, this was at the beginning of the pandemic. The baby survived but the mother died after weeks in the hospital. My friend was really upset by that, because her great grandmother died the same way during the 1918 pandemic, leaving her grandfather without his birth mother.

Not meaning to be sarcastic at all. I thought it was same as natural immunity, but when I looked it up, I think they are meaning it as vaccine-acquired immunity. And, the opposite would be natural-acquired immunity? I just didn't pay attention to that term, is all. I was just asking, did you see the words "acquired immunity" somewhere in the Oklahoma stats I provided above, because I really was interested if it was, because I could have missed it when I quickly looked through the stats-because I thought it meant the same and I am very interested in the studies on natural immunity. Sorry so long-winded and hope that makes sense. But, it apparently doesn't mean the same thing. Good to know.

We have a family member in palliative care and have had immediate family come from both other provinces and the states to say goodbye. it has been difficult but not impossible to prove double vax status for those coming from out of province so they can enter the hospital. however i really cant believe there isnt a universal system for tracking who got what vaccine when

considering there were people being paid to plan for a world Wide pandemic long before covid arrived, this seems like a bit of a mess.

Daisy chain - especially since just about everyone should be recorded in canInmunize!

@OllieJane I just saw your response. I'm still not understanding what natural immunity means. As far as I know, we don't have immunity to Covid, other than those who have had Covid. In that case, what I have heard and read is that is more than likely short lived. That is what I was referring to as as acquired immunity. No, I did not see the words acquired immunity in the info you provided.

Natural immunity are those who have gotten Covid and recovered. It is not short-lived. I have proof of my test after almost a year, and my numbers were very high. We are finding out what most experts thought since the beginning of Covid, previously infected-have immunity. They have thought this all along, with common-science-sense, but they had to gather proof, and the proof has been coming out more and more now, that those recovered from Covid, and I'm sure that now includes those breakthrough-vaccinated who recovered from the Delta, are immune.

The vaccine is short-lived because it is likely a "leaky vaccine" or "imperfect vaccine" as the biologist/immunologists call it. It didn't work exactly like the makers intended it to. But, even though it is "imperfect" it is saving lives, so that is good.

Those CDC vaccination cards are an inconvenient large size. I have a vinyl protector for it, but cannot see myself wearing it around my neck. Presently it is folded in my wallet (no protection). I dont think I want a photo of it on my phone.

I’m thinking of scanning it down to a more convenient size (Driver’s License size), then laminating it and putting that in my wallet. Thus far I have not had to show my CDC vax card to anyone. Has anyone else done this shrink and laminate to their vax card?

@petalique Why not keep a photo of it on your phone? I see no Information on mine that might be a security risk.

We were told not to laminate the card because future entries may be necessary.

This:

“Georges C. Benjamin, 68, executive director of the American Public Health Association, counsels against laminating your vaccination record. That's chiefly because that card has blank spaces to record future shots, whether the second dose of a two-dose regimen or a booster shot should one become necessary. Sealing the card in plastic would prevent the vaccine provider from adding such information to the original card.”

https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/vaccine-card-safety.html