It is going to be interesting, No nuclear power plants, solar energy that is only good for about half a day on the average, and wind power that can only works in a very liming range of wind conditions. They have removed their hydro power plant.

With all of those people producing methane maybe some one can figure out a way to capture that.

Unfortunately, "Chicken Little" has misread or deliberately misinterpreted the California Legislature and ARB regulations.

The regulations prohibit the sale of new machines of less than 24hp after Jan 1, 2024 unless they are zero emission. The proposed (but not enacted) full ban is Jan 1, 2035.

I'm not necessarily happy about this, but have two years to purchase something new, and a further eleven years to use what I already have. Most of my existing equipment is ten to twenty years old so I think the 2035 date is more relevant than the 2024 date. I currently have three garden tractors, three weedeaters, three leaf blowers, two walk behind edgers, two rototillers, a snow thrower, and a large shredder/bagger.

I grew up in California and remember when the gear-heads went nuts with the first auto emission controls and how cars and horsepower were ruined in the late 1970's and early 1980's. Guess what, Detroit, Tokyo, and Dingolfing learned how to produce even more street legal, emission compliant horsepower. My current rides are a 2008 BMW M5 (500hp) and a Ford F350 diesel (440hp). Yes both have more HP than I'll ever need, and will eventually be replaced by battery or hydrogen technology, but I can live with that.

Greg, Name calling or personal attacks are unnecessary.

If you have a dispute with the facts as I relayed them from the actual law, and the many credible sources of reporting that I pulled from, then please stick with that, and I would be happy to dispute with you actual facts. By the way, I did place links for the actual law, and all the stories that have been written from both liberal leaning and conservative leaning sources, too many to put all of them down, but please feel free to read them prior to comment. Thank you.

I guess a 25 HP push mower is in our future.

I wonder where all of this electricity is going to come from?

This reminds me of the 1970 when the libs, decided to increase the gas mileage of the automobile. Their efforts resulted in the creation of the SUV, which they still are complaining about.

Not only did they create the SUV, but with the billions spent on improving gas mileage, my 2017 Dodge gets the same gas mileage as a 1917 Dodge.

I wonder what kinds of lawn mowers this will create. Maybe one powered by a 350 V8

California🤦, wasn't the San Andreas fault supposed to crack by now and have dropped them off into the Pacific? Not sure why anybody lives there in the first place. Given that everything causes cancer in that state. I would also like someone from C.A.R.B. explain to me why L.A. still has smog after all these years of emissions testing.

Nathaniel, Good questions!

Wait, what's the point of this law? Why can't tractors above 25 hp be used? Why was it accepted? Each adopted law has its own purpose, but here I have only one thought: that the state wants to take even more money from us. It turns out that all farmers who use tractors with an engine power of 25 hp and above have to pay some kind of tax? I bought myself a 30 hp tractor just a few months ago from this site -- https://www.machinerydealer.co.uk, for a good price, and now I have to pay some additional taxes for it?

Old thread and the above post sounds like spam as much as anything else.

In any case, the link to the law (actually it's a link to the bill) doesn't mention horsepower at all. Where is the 25 hp cutoff coming from?

And is there some kind of tax for larger ones? I saw nothing on that either.

When a challenge emerges, some complain while others get creative. Solar produces only when the sun shines. So, someone added a battery. Now there's power all the time.