90% of the brands they sell are import junk, or anerican made junk. Like Wolf. Yech. They obviously focus on the cheap low end market.

Schrock has 3 mid grade versions, and if you go with the one in the middle, Trademark, or the highest end version, Boutique, then you’d be getting a mid grade product. Dewills is also good, at a higher price point. Those are all framed cabinets. Kitchencraft is the ONLY frameless line that they offer worth exploring, and it’s merely adequate, not great. There are far better quality frameless options out there, but none that they seem to offer.

But, you need a good kitchen designer not used to doing cheap flipper projects when you go with a better quality line. And most of what they sell would be in the cheap flipper category, so their KDs may or may not have the actual skills to work with a medium level project. Or frameless. Which is a completely different design animal to know how to do. This is where hiring an independent designer can ensure that you get good quality design, even if the cabinet seller is a clueless hack that doesn’t know how to work with frameless or at a higher level.

@User Is what they liked and picked... It's supposedly a new line, a small kitchen was 23k just the cabinetry, so we will see when it arrives.

They also looked @ this kitchen John Michaels but that kitchen came in 80k.

Verbo what other frameless cabinet brands would you recommend? I am very impressed with DOCA’s quality and accessories of cabinets from Spain but budget is too high. I read about FORM cabinets which imports from Germany but there is no showroom for designs aside from looking at projects online.

Ultracraft is not Kitchencraft. Ultracraft is a bit if a step up, but they are having quality control issues at the moment. As is the entire industry. That is a bigger issue with frameless cabinets than framed, as framed are more forgiving of being pushed and pulled, and that’s what the typical framed installer is used to doing.

If you don’t have an expert frameless installer, that can ruin even the best, most expert, planned design.

Frameless installers command a bigger premium, because frameless is way harder to install well. Framed installers tend to want to force rather than finesse, and you can’t do that. Plus, cutting any of the gloss fillers or panels requires better tools and protection for them. And different expensive blades. There is no room for scribe molding or caulk or a TUK to ”good enough” it.

Omega Full Access, DuraSupreme, and Brookhaven would be top of the list for not waiting on a 9 month boat ride from Italy or Germany timelines. Or, a local custom shop that has an edge bander and can do Fenix or reconstituted veneers, or slip matched veneer layups, *in house*. They wont be the cheap guys, compared to those who build boxes and order from Rehau, who also is not cheap. Frameless is outside the American norm of framed ”solid wood” bs prejudice, and you pay for any outside the norm specification. Or you accept cheap substandard imitations with the plan to do something else after their 5 year warranty runs out.

The ones I listed are more budget mid upper end to high end quality. They are worth owning. But only if you can find the right design and install team to work with. A poor design from a flipper designer and bubba installer is a ”help disaster” post in the making.

@Verbo thank you for your invaluable comments. I am awaiting a quote for Omega Full Access. The Ultracraft (acrylic and rift cut oak) design is beautiful.