I may not be following your descriptions/drawings accurately, but trash to left of sink, dishwasher to right of sink would make the most sense. In your sketch it looks like there would not be a conflict between open DW door and open middle island drawers.

Yeah, as I was writing that part I was thinking there might be an issue. The drawing is close but not perfect, so I'd have to actually measure it out to make sure, might need a little adjustment, maybe a small cabinet for cleaning items between the sink and dishwasher or something.

What course411 said. DW right of the sink keeps it out of the way of the prep zone.

I like this L layout, but I'm confused by your statement that venting is an issue if the range is on the exterior wall. Usually that simplifies venting. How are you planning to vent a 48" (gas?) rangetop? It really needs to be an overhead vent with a clear path through the roof or through an exterior wall.

@mcarroll16

Venting would be an issue because of the windows. I'm not sure I'd want to put a big overhead hood there instead of a window.

Planning for a 48" Gas Rangetop, I don't have a pic of it, but I have a 54" overhead hood planned that will go over it. There is existing 10" ducting to go from the range wall to the outer side wall.

I'm not married to that placement, but I think it is certainly the easier of the options with the existing duct work.

Aside from the fact that downdrafts pop up and act like a hood, but from the side or back, I know very little about them. Maybe a downdraft would be great and allow placement under the windows. I just don't know what's involved in a downdraft system to try to price it out and compare.

No, down drafts are bad. You have a good plan. Commented because I wasn't paying close attention, and your comment made me worry you were planning a downdraft. If I'd noticed your elevation with the huge (gorgeous!) windows, I would have understood and not said anything. Sorry!

No one needs a48" range unless they cook for 20+ every meal. The venting alone will cost as much if not more than the range and for sure no downdraft will ever come close to venting that range .Your walkways are too small. Pass through to where .I would want my pots close to my range

@mcarroll16 I appreciate the comment and feedback. Otherwise I might have considered a downdraft or something.

@Patricia Colwell Consulting

If you read what I typed up, or looked at the pics or the floor plan the passthrough goes into the dining room. As I said in my post, walkways aren't changing, they are what they are and your reply did not address anything I actually DID ask for feedback on.

Unfortunately Houzz seems to have turned into the place Pros go to have a power trip or something. 9 out of 10 replies from pros on posts are negative, and mostly in a very bitchy way. I have seen a few that were negative and provided useful information on how/why, and even fewer provided genuine constructive feedback/criticism.

Sorry folks, no everyone has $50k to drop on a pro range and vent or is willing or able to rip up and completely rearrange their kitchen. As I said, we had to work within many constraints, and while the results are not "ideal" I think we've done pretty good.

@dizzy149, not looking to jump into the middle of a fight here. But in the spirit of trying to be helpful, I would ask why you plan a 48" range. That is a lot of capacity. For me, I would rather have more countertop on the left side (non-sink side). Maybe you have a solid reason for this many burners.

Other comments, which may be on issues you aren't considering:

*Have you cooked in a kitchen with the spice or utensil pullouts? For me, I'd rather have drawers. I like my spices in the top or middle drawer, where they are easy to see and pull out.

*For utensils, I also feel like I get more efficient storage in a drawer with good dividers.

*You said the cabinets will have pull-out shelving. In my experience, drawers are more convenient than roll-outs. If it's a budget issue, totally get that.

@mccarroll16

There are 6 of us in the house, and our house is always the holiday house, so we are always cooking huge meals for the holidays. I've had to cook stuff out on my grill, inlaws bring their camping stove, etc. In a normal week we will cook 5 dinners, and usually have 3-4 large pots/skillets going and they never actually fit because they are too crowded. The Dacor I want is 48" with 6 burners, LOTS of space for each burner. I have a 35cm "Bigga" from Solidteknics that does not play well with other pans. I am pretty sure that on the Dacor is JUST might fit in it's own place. Our next choice is a Fisher & Paykel that has 8 burners.

Also a realtor friend of ours suggested that having a 48" in a big house like ours, with a large kitchen would help the resell value. He told us this after we had pretty much decided to go with a 48".

As for the drawers vs pull outs. We have a good mix of the two now and I don't like casserole dishes and things like that in a drawer. Mixing bowls and things, eh... With kids, they can easily dump stuff in a drawer, but a shelf requires them to do a little more work. I've heard mixed opinions on the resell value of a home that only has one or the other.

Before I moved from Ohio my buddy and I built a pull out spice cabinet. It 6 or 8" wide and had three rows and you could get about 10 in each row. He bought like 60 matching containers and some fancy label stuff. The tops were all labeled. The next level down was "free for all" as he called it. He put his overflow or things that he didn't want in the top in there. The bottom was the "oil pit" where he has his cooking oils and things. I can't remember what he did on the bottom to help absorb and manage the mess that always accompanies them.

On the OTHER side of his stove we had the utinsel drawer. The top had 3 "buckets" with the most commonly used stuff. There were 3 more on the bottom as well, and he put the less used ones and ones that were too tall in there. I'm pretty sure that one was 8", I know the "buckets" were 6" across.

I am thinking that if I have 10-16" on each side that I could do something similar, but a little larger. Then in the corner it could just be a shelf that we use for the appliances we use MAYBE a dozen times a year.

Sounds like you know what you like and what you need. And completely get it with the "Bigga" pan. We stuck with a cooktop that created other cost and logistics issues, because it has a good spot for our 15" skillet and still fits other pots.