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Help with built-in lowers for family room

last year

We have been working on our house for a few years now, and are now trying to wrap up the last room, the family room. Originally we wanted just tower built-in's on each side of the fireplace to hold A/V equipment (receiver, disc player, game console, etc), but it didn't look right with the cathedral ceiling. Now we are leaning toward just lower built-ins. The room is measures 20' wide by 15' deep. The main reason for the thought of built-ins was to house this AV equipment and for a place for bookshelf speakers to sit. The extra storage would be nice too.


Bids from a couple cabinet makers show 3 cabinets on each side of the fireplace, each with two doors. We plan on having the inner-most pair of doors fitted with decorative metal/mesh to allow ventilation for the electronics. Each cabinet measures 26.5" wide. Things I'm struggling with right now are:


1) Is six cabinet doors on each side too much? The inner ones would have the decorative metal inserts.

2) Would drawers be a good addition for media storage, and if so, should each section just have 3 equal-size drawers? My wife is leery of having more "junk drawers" form in the house, but we do have a legitimate need for them (movie disk storage, game console accessories, etc.).

3) We wanted to just do lowers now and figure we could always add uppers later on if needed. Is this a good idea?


Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated! Thank you!!






Comments (20)

  • PRO
    last year
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    No to the uppers, and the others? Too many doors.

    Can't speak to all the av equipment you own, lets just say most people have abandoned all the bulky equipment for higher tech solutions.

    Sonos....Amazon fire, The ability to tell Alexa what you want to hear......and speakers that literally disappear. Along with all the old C.D's : )

    At the very least, reduce the sides far left and far right to a single door, and center large drawers.

    Don't do any of the above, until you investigate some higher tech, and cabinets you can purchase that may serve the purpose, painted...wood etc.


    Just consider what has happened to tv's ......and all the bulky furniture that USED TO HOUSE THEM: )

    prone529 thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    last year

    Hi. Agree with @JAN MOYER that flexibility is the key to current and future tv area design.


    You have already go your tv area defined. Don't box yourself in with the cabinets.


    Uppers: no.....not enough space.


    # of cabinets: I am going to guess the width of each of the 2 sides is around 84"? That would leave about 25" opening for each cabinet (depending on how they are structured). Not bad as long as you make sure there is no stile ( vertical center support piece).


    Make sure the style of the cabinets fits with the rest of the house


    Can you make these window seats as well? How deep is the drywall area around the fireplace?

    prone529 thanked CDR Design, LLC
  • last year

    @JAN MOYER - Thanks for the reply! Part of this room was installing a surround sound system, so there is some electronics that need to be included; preferably concealed in a built-in or piece of furniture. I am a little unclear by what you said here: " At the very least, reduce the sides far left and far right to a single door, and center large drawers."


    Are you suggesting to reduce from 6 cab doors down to 5 on each side (eliminating one door), and then to also have one bay a series of 2-3 drawers, rather than just a cabinet with shelves iinside? Thank you!

  • last year

    @CDR Designs -- You are very close, the amount of space on each side is 83". It's funny you mention window seats. Originally that was my wife's thought, to have a reading nook area under each window. However we are going with a contemporary look in this room and I think she felt it just wouldn't fit that look. The depth from the wall to face of fireplace is about 24".

  • last year

    @Norwood Architects - I think we are open to furniture pieces, but would have to find something that would fit the contemporary style that we are using in this room. The fireplace will be covered with a standard grey/white stacked stone material.

  • PRO
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    Well........ there was nothing very "contemporary" about those drawings up above : ) ?

    I'd also try to skip stacked stone which has been done. done. and done.

    The very first thing I'd do is get with a really good AV source in your local area, and THEN assess whatever you may need to house. You may be very pleasantly surprised that you then have many more options for a great looking room. Let the built in money go to more creative solutions, more up to date. ........and more "contemporary". However you may define it

    One of the first places to look? Room and Board and customize your own . Many sizes, finishes, American made, small one time delivery fee and great customer service. You needn't be edge to edge,,,,,AND?With IR repeater? You cable box can be in a basement or a darn closet!


    And there are plenty other options, all more interesting "furniture" than what you show up above.



    prone529 thanked JAN MOYER
  • PRO
    last year

    Don't make things more complicated than they have to be. I wouldn't bother with built ins in this area. Just select two matching 72 inch sideboards and call it a day. They will be far more interesting than anything you have built. BTW those small doors were so wrong for 79 inches to begin with. You can vent the cabinets out the back just as easily as the front. Not really much chance of anything overheating anymore with electronics.






    prone529 thanked BeverlyFLADeziner
  • PRO
    last year

    Okay. You need to rethink this. Please do this in this order.


    1) Show photos of other rooms of the house. This room needs to work with the rest of the house.


    2) Once we see what the rest of the house is, post some inspiration photos of what you want the area to look like


    3) Refine that look, determining what the ultimate look should be.


    4) Consult with media people to see what you might need cabinet-wise.


    5) Only then should you get designs from a cabinet-maker.


    By the way, a window seat is not traditional or modern. No reason why you cannot have a window seat with a modern look. And your depth is perfect.



  • last year

    Thanks all for your input and advice!


    @JAN MOYER - Are there other options you would recommend instead of stacked stone for the fireplace? Also - thanks for the recommendation on Room & Board. Is that where you pulled those pictures from?


    @BeverlyFLADeziner -- Are there any stores/sources you would recommend for media tables like the ones you showed above?

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    "Not really much chance of anything overheating anymore with electronics."

    Our audio/video equipment is in its own large walk in closet and has a separate AC unit, because the equipment would cause the closet to get too hot. Not all "electronics" are the same! The higher end audio/video equipment can put out a lot of heat.

  • PRO
    last year

    Hi. Can't help with style unless I see photos of the rest fo your home, as well as photos of fireplaces you like.


    Otherwise, I am guessing.

  • PRO
    last year

    I just searched "72 inch sideboards", but Wayfair has many to choose from. Don't discount shopping locally in your town.

  • PRO
    last year

    Go on Room and Board, under the CUSTOM heading. Look under Copenhagen, Or Hudson....

    Put together your own from material to sizing. From base to , wood stain. to hardware. You needn't match configuration on both sides, and you need not fill every inch of space.

    As to the stacked stone or other? show more of the rest of your home......kitchen especially

  • last year

    Neither option looks right to me. maybe its just the poor rendering but i also think its just to short. Agree with furniture option - here or if there is a more reasonable option in room. we still have audio equipment and regular speakers but we keep the equipment in a seperate closet and all music through computer/phone.

  • last year

    Thanks for the feedback everyone. Here are some pictures of the interior. Keep in mind we are trying to wrap up a 3 year monumental construction project (relocated rooms, addition) so we still plan on getting new furniture and art for the walls. Hopefully this gives you an idea of our style. I’ll work on some inspiration pics next and will post soon!

  • PRO
    last year

    Hi. Thanks for the photos. 😀 And congrats on the project!


    This is why, whether you are doing a project yourself, or working with a designer, you look at the style of your home, as well as inspiration photos of what you want the room to look like.


    When I work with clients, these are the same steps I take (although on a larger scale....example, I have a questionnaire they complete).


    Actually the style of cabinets you had drawn up seem to go really well with your home.


    I would find out what equipment you need to enclose and is you would be happy with purchased cabinets rather than built-ins.


    Window seats would absolutely work in this home and I think would add much more value than cabinets alone.


    Questions


    1) How high are the cabinets in the drawing? Or what is the elevation (floor to bottom of window)?


    2) Is the room with the fireplace (shown below) the room you are showing with the brown loveseats? Or does this room with the fireplace open to the kitchen?


    3) Can I see all 4 walls of the room with the fireplace? Thanks!

  • PRO
    last year

    I think whichever way you go, purchased or built in is fine based on pictures.That said? I'd be no on window seats. Why? Because to be remotely a comfortable seat they need to be low and account for a fat cushion. That means a hard seat height of about 16" and 3" firm foam for cushion, or legs will simply dangle in air. Second? Nobody ever really sits in them! Nobody truly curls up in them to read.

    Third? You lose the top as a spot for a beautiful lamp. That's why. : )

  • last year

    @BeverlyFLADeziner, when you mentioned that the doors were wrong for 79”, are you saying they’re too small and too many of them? What would you have recommended?

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