It’s dark just now so I can’t compare the leaves and thorns to my Maggie rose bush from ARE, but I have to say, the flowers look strikingly similar. Of course, my Maggie isn’t blooming right now so I can’t take any pictures of blooms either, but I may have some in my gallery. I’ll check and post if I find some.

Thank you, Judi! I just went on hmf and wow, I think you've cracked it! The leaves, thorns and buds are indeed similar.

Do you think the scent is similar to what I describe? Have you noticed any hips on your plant?

If you wouldn't mind I would love pictures of the details tomorrow (if you've got time only, of course) Thank you for the big lead!

I was thinking the same thing!

My first thought before reading comments was also 'Maggie'. But a problem there is that you can't root cuttings of it. I presume you are successful with other rose cuttings? We root Maggie, easily, all the time.

Yes, I'm not a pro, but i strike about 60%-70% of my cuttings. I just had a perfect batch of Mrs Dudley Cross. 7/7. I struggle with some varieties in particular, this included. But most of the others are hybrid teas and such.

I've read old bushes get worse at rooting with the years. Any truth in that? I can't verify the age of the bush but it appears to me somewhat ancient. Although it does get whacked anually as mentioned...

Your rose certainly does look like all of the photos of Maggie on HMF - not only the blooms, but the size/shape of the leaves, and also the color of the leaves.

Re rooting it - I know you said you tries "ziplocks", along with several other esoteric methods. That is the system I use, and I have questions - How long did you leave the cuttings in a bright (not direct sun) window in their dirt (I use commercial potting soil) inside of the blown up one gallon zip lock bag? Do you dip them in rooting hormone first? It always takes longer than I think it will - at least 6 months for me, and I get about 3 out of 5 cuttings to root, as I am not good at it.

Jackie

My Maggie got rooted via a pegging stem. *^_^*

Sorry, rosaceae, I’ve been busy with other things. Our church is hosting a ten day Bible conference for youth and I have seven students and two teachers to feed breakfast to and get out the door before 8 every morning, so my schedule is a bit tight just now. As far as fragrance, yes, Maggie is a raspberry sort of rose fragrance to me as well. Sounds like everyone else who is chipping in here is agreed that this is Maggie so I don’t know if you still want photos or not. My bush is pruned down for spring and doesn’t have any new growth, but let me know if you would like some photos of leaves and thorns and I’ll be happy to snap a few for you.

Thank you Judi! Don't you worry about them! I just wanted to double check, cause like I said the hmf ones looked a lot alike to me, but I didn't know if my judgement was good enough. But now that more people see the similarities too and you've confirmed the fragrance part I think we've got it clear cut. Have fun with the conference! :)

Jacqueline, I actually use smaller ziplocs, and I do dip in hormone unless I know the variety strikes easily. I've only just got gel hormone, I used to use powder with good enough succes. Jury's still out for gel but everyone says it is better.

I will upload a picture of one of them for you later in the day. I'm trying a couple different things currently with the stems from Maggie I've currently got. I get out of work at 5 ish plus the commute...

Maybe you could try one of those little propagating capsule/ pod things? Those work really well. I haven’t personally tried to propagate Maggie at all, but I’ve rooted other varieties and decided that for any of my harder to root varieties, I’ll just go with the pods.

Oh I've tried them! Not on Maggie, but on 3 other bushes and I couldn't actually get them to work! Even though I lined the edges with plastic, the moss I used was bone dry when I checked a month and a half in. Not even callous formed. To say I was disappointed that day is an understatement lol

Rosaceae, you need to add water to the capsule occasionally. They dry out over time.

Jacqueline, I'm sorry i couldn't get back to you earlier. I'm reporting with pictures of my go-to method. It is a ziploc type bag sized 10,6 inch X 9.4 X 2.7. The thrid dimension is because the bottom is expandible, i find that i get much better result in these than non-expandible bottom ones.

Inside I use plastic cups of any size that is aproriate for the cutting and that will fit inside, usually i do it by couples, but sometimes i'll be able to fit 3 of them. i drill plenty of holes in them with a dremel tool.

the substrate for me is preferrably long fibre sphagnum moss, but this season i could only find a moss that's not the typical candian sphagnum, not sure what it is exactly. It works best when you stuff it in TIGHTLY to the point the cutting is unable to wobble at all.

I've got several cuttings in these since late January of what i now know is "Maggie", you might be able to make out the word "Lumen", scribbled in them, that's the study name i gave it, if you will.

I also have an unided coral miniature that's callousing like crazy, but above the moss. i'd like to imagine the same is happening below, but pulling them out to check is often not a good idea. It's simply better to wait for a) the canes to turn black or, b) roots to peek through the clear plastic cu to know.

This is my go-to method, the first one I'll try. With it I've rooted many Dudley Cross, other china roses than Maggie, miniatures, modern shrubs, Cecile, Brunner, Clotilde Soupert, a couple climbers, Black Jade, Winter Magic, and so on. Hybrid teas don't normally take with this method, but sometimes they'll surprise you, it never hurts to try. I'm also experimenting with just sticking the cutting in to a rockwool cube and putting it in the ziploc, sans moss, sans cup. So far they've kept well hydrated, and there's a little callous in some of them.

I checked yesterday on my hydroponic system and while i did have a couple Maggie loses, guess what, y'all? There's an unmistakable root in one. Now I don't know how to move it to the soil. I just know it won't survive the transition. I have no idea how to soften the blow for it...

Judi, i actually just received those capsule things but in the clear plastic version, I'm sure that will be a lot more helpful than the solid black ones I had to gauge if moisture needs to be added. I'm excited to use them. It was sadly too late for my "Hot Cocoa", I'd been meaning to use them on it but too little too late. It will be a LOOOOOONG time until I find another Hot Cocoa here. Rats.