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can gutter be installed lower than the roof line?

last year

I want to lower the section 1 of the gutter to the same elevation of section 2, so we can get rid of that ugly downspout on the right side of the window, only keep the downspout on the left side of window. But my builder said the gutter contractor said it cannot be lowered and doesn't want to explain further. I am seeking the knowledge from Houzz community if that section 1 gutter can be lowered or not. I estimate the elevation difference between section 1 gutter and section 2 gutter is about 2 3/4" I really want to get rid of that downspout to the right of the window.






Comments (17)

  • last year

    I also don't like the look of the left downspout that is curved around the accent brick section. I wanted to move that downspout to the back corner (push back about 12") and be fastened to the back wall so it will be a straight looking. My builder also pushed back really hard and said it won't make a difference to the look. What do you all think? would that make a difference?

  • PRO
    last year

    Water flows down hill and there is far too much downhill off of that room to get by with just a single gutter. You'd have overflowing gutters and water damage.

  • last year

    I’m curious about the little structure on top. Does the rainwater drop from the gutters at the back of it, right on to the roof? I wonder if there is a concern for freezing, or infiltration even with good flashing? Should there be a downspout bringing the water closer to the next gutter?

  • last year

    DH is not a roofer, but he's a retired engineer and a homeowner for over 30 years. We have owned three homes during this time and he has done a lot of work on them. He's an experienced amateur. :-) He says you definitely need two downspouts and if anything, they are undersized. You have a large area of roof that needs to be drained. Look at it during the first heavy rain. You may see water cascading over the gutter (the middle section) and not even getting into the downspouts. As @minardi says, water flows downhill. You're just trying to direct it so it's not damaging.


    You can paint the downspouts a darker color which would cause them to blend into the brick better, but because they're against multi-colored brick there isn't going to be a perfect color for blending. The way they have to jog around the decorative brick bands is odd, but what's done is done there. Someone should have thought this through during the design phase.

  • last year

    First of all your roof and the façade of your house look really pretty. Back to your original question, the gutter has to be attached to something. So if you lower it, what is it attached to? Because you only showed us a little bit of your façade, I was wondering if there was any way to drain to the outside edges of your roof? I do agree with other posters that you’re going to have a lot of drainage coming down that center part, but perhaps you could do some thing that is prettier than the gutters. To be fair, I don’t know how much rain you get where you live.

  • last year
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    I’m curious about the little structure on top.

    Those are kick-out flashing diverters. Their purpose is to prevent water from running down the building facade. They also show that the installers knew what they were doing.

    Draining the dormer and the main roof requires at least the two downspouts.

    If the downspouts are just dumping water directly onto the ground next to the house, look forward to basement water problems.

  • PRO
    last year
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    Perhaps your best option is to install a koi pond (with concealed overflow) under the window. Or maybe re-routing the downspouts to the back wall withe the window. And leaving the gutters as they are. Or some combination thereof.


  • last year

    Leave the gutters as they are, but improve your landscaping.

    The narrow row of plants is drawing your eye towards these downspouts, but the bigger issue is that the landscaping is too small in scale for the size of your house. The bed in front of the house needs to be deeper, and have taller and larger shrubs. Make a simple semicircle that is deepest under the window. Move the small plants in front of the evergreens.

    A larger bed will also give you the space to hide downspout extenders under the shrubs. These will move water away from your house, protecting your foundation and providing your plants with irrigation at the same time.

    The little bit you have shown us is a very attractive house, but it needs the right size of landscaping to look its best.




  • last year

    Thank you all for your comments and compliments about the facade of the house. Thank you @partim for your landscaping idea. I will consider some tall plants to block those downspouts.

  • PRO
    last year

    Get rid of all that ugly mess and install rainhandlers.

  • last year

    @ Mark Bischak, Architect . When I did job site walk through with my builder, we talked about put the downspouts along the back wall so it will be straight and at the back corner. Unfortunately, he did not communicate this to the installation crew. When I went to see it, installation was already done. My builder agreed to move those downspouts to the back wall as we agreed before. But he is also trying to convince me to accept the current look. He said it won't make much difference for the look. But I still feel it would be better to be at the back corner.

  • PRO
    last year

    Every jog in a downspout is an opportunity to clog. Especially if it is my downspout.

  • last year

    if you’re going to be moving them then maybe think about upsizing the gutters and downspouts - there are formulas to help determine all this but most contractors throw up the standard size and call it good. We have a very steep roof and have added more downspouts and larger gutters in certain spots but wish we had known more when they were put in originally

  • PRO
    last year

    It is what it is to handle the water off that roof a poor design IMO of the upper floor with the dormer so now make sure thewater is noexiting the downspout right next to the house and paint those to be closer in color to the brick and add some plants I agree those downspouts are too small .

  • last year

    They are way undersized. Moving them is only going to increase your risks of water damage. Which is already high.

  • last year

    I hope to find a downspout that is clear color. not available on market.

  • PRO
    last year

    A Rainchain might be the answer. There is some splash.