Converting high ceiling space to add bath-&washer room any suggestion?

Delia Bala

last year

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3onthetree

last year

Unless a whole lot of detail has been left out, without seeing the existing space upstairs, what I see here may not be fully ripened in it's current form. So you are building a floor over a tall 2 story Living Room. I estimate the floor will cut about 12" above the transition of rectangle to palladian window in the Living Room, and will need to remove the upper sidelite windows in the fireplace nook. Does the back wall (with the palladian window) reach 2 full stories?

So in this extra square footage upstairs you are creating 3 new spaces: a Seating Area queuing to the Bathroom and Laundry:

- The Bathroom will have a window, which is unfortunately in the shower, right over the front door. From what I read the toilet is moved so you can't visually see it when initially stepping inside the bathroom, but the angled wall creates a conflict with clearance in front of it. I assume because it's a game room and the door will be left open? A Foyer below would typically not have any plumbing, so it will have to run inside the floor joists depending on their direction. Typically a 3" toilet branch has less play in how far it can travel within a joist space (because of slope). If you have HVAC that's not in the attic I'm not sure of it's route, or if you can run any new plumbing vents to the back roof plane instead of placing them right over the front door roof, and the bath exhaust over to the sidewall. I also gather this is an additional bathroom, so I don't know if the old bathroom that kids refused to shower in is getting abandoned, removed, or is relegated to sink use only (because besides the shower no one uses the toilet because it can be seen from the door?), but it's placement might be more adjacent to bedrooms than the new bathroom.

- The Seating Area looks to not be storage, so it would require operable windows. HVAC route again.

- The Laundry, because of the Living Room lacking any plumbing and the exterior wall with the palladian window probably not wanting the waste/vent or dryer exhaust in that wall, plumbing would be run in the direction of joists to an interior wall below to transfer down, exhaust out the ceiling to roof or sidewall, and HVAC supply routed from somewhere.

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apple_pie_order
last year
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Delia Bala
Original Author
last year

Our dilemma: the bathroom design extends just above the front door. We have a master bathroom and a small bathroom, but the kids always prefer the master bathroom for their showers. We're not fond of the bathroom door opening directly to the toilet area. Can we relocate the bathroom door to the center? Also, are we able to install an angled door for the room adjacent to the stairs?
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Boxerpal
last year
Can you take photos of the current space?

Converting an open area into livable space may have some constraints. The good news is you are not building above a staircase. But my concern is the angled door. Where us this? Why is it angled? Is it the roof line? That may not be up to code.
Delia Bala
Original Author
last year
Updated plan with angled door/wall to existing bedroom
shirlpp
last year
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If you relocate the door - will you have enough wall space for wet towels?
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millworkman
last year
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So you are looking to demo and frame on the high ceiling area and make that part of the second floor? Have you spoken to a contractor and the feasibility of altering and adding to the existing framing? This will not be inexpensive. COL area dependent you could easily be 200K plus.
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Delia Bala
Original Author
last year
Thank you. Yes, we've engaged with a contractor and are currently in the design phase. Before moving forward, we believe it's beneficial to gather additional perspectives from professionals."
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Elaine Kroeger
last year
I would suggest that you switch vanity and toilet; there would be more room for someone using a mobility aid or helping someone else.
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Delia Bala
Original Author
last year
Thanks for your input. Our primary goal is to conceal the toilet a bit. Originally, the toilet was positioned where the shower is now, but we decided against having it directly above our front door, so we made the switch.
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Minardi
last year
Does the plumbing align with the plumbing on the ground floor? If not, you will lose ceiling space down stairs to a pipe slope needed to drain things.
Delia Bala
Original Author
last year
Yes, the plumbing aligns. I confirmed with both a plumber and a contractor.
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Boxerpal
last year
Okay, I see much better what you are trying to do. Years ago we had a home with two open areas (20 foot ceilings) and contemplated closing off one of the open areas to put in a 4th bathroom. We ended up not doing this, but we did have an architect look at this and write up plans.

I love this idea of using what you have and creating more space for your needs.

You wrote...

" Can we relocate the bathroom door to the center? Also, are we able to install an angled door for the room adjacent to the stairs? "

Yes and yes... Of course this is dependent on how you need to enter the space, code, structure etc. You are not alone in wanting to use your existing home to create more space that functions for your family.

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Patricia Colwell Consulting
last year
How does th new framing happen without huge money spent on supporting this space not to mention how it affects the floor space below. The floor plan is only part of the issue
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