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Redesign Home Layout with kitchen acting as Hallway

12 months ago
last modified: 12 months ago

Hi,

I am remodeling my house and currently the kitchen is located in a very awkard location, it is technincaly in the hallway.

I do not wan to move it into the current living room/dining room area because that would mean that I have to close the really large windows located in the dining room.

Please let me know if you guys have any ideas of what I can do.

Thanks in advance








Comments (15)

  • 12 months ago

    Please label the load-bearing walls because they are expensive to move. Use big letters (like "Fireplace" label) and color them blue, red or some other color that is not gray.


    Photos would help.


    Please explain the stairs area. Up to a second floor? Down to an entrance or basement?


    What is your budget range and what does it have to include?

    Martin thanked apple_pie_order
  • PRO
    12 months ago

    Can't read any dimensions. Is room 3 a bedroom or just room? Your kitchen is a hallway. Unless you can relocate the stairs and take away from room 3, that will not change from what I can see.

    This is a tough one!

  • 12 months ago

    Room 3 is a bedroom. Stairs are going down. Cannot really relocate them

  • 12 months ago

    Move the kitchen's door to the right of the kitchen's entrance so that it is next to the stairs on the other side of their wall. Lengthen the hallway to connect to the new door location by taking away from Bedroom 3. Close up the old kitchen door into the hallway. This will prevent tromping through the kitchen to get to the bedrooms and bathroom.


    If the green lines are load bearing walls, you will have to get advice from a structural engineer about beams or other supports.

  • 11 months ago

    @Martin the current layout minimizes the actual hallway and maximizes Room 3. It's rather space efficient. @palimpest gave you an option that effectively diverts traffic from your kitchen as requested but sacrifices part of Room 3 and gives you a long actual hallway. Sliding the doorway up and down that load-bearing wall allows you to think about how much of Room 3 you are willing to cut off and what you would do with the remaining space in that bedroom. I'm guessing it was meant to be a primary bedroom with the other two as kids' rooms or guest/office space. I love the large open living room and dining room with the fireplace and large windows. Honestly, with 5' of kitchen "hallway" allowing Room 3 to be as large as it is, I think it may currently be at its most efficient.


    Key to using it would be to not further restrict movement in the kitchen by adding a kitchen table but just use your dining room. You have a corner in your kitchen where it might be tempting to stuff a table, but I wouldn't. Maybe a high chair or narrow bookshelves, or a small console table but nothing that interferes with traffic.

  • 11 months ago

    Thank You for the opinion. What do you think about moving the kitchen to where the current dining room is?

  • 11 months ago

    You said there are large windows in the dining room. Are they high enough off the floor that you can put cabinets under them? It looks like they take up almost all the wall area on two sides of the dining room, so if you can't put cabinets under them I don't see how moving the kitchen to that space would be a win for you. Also, moving all the electric and plumbing for a kitchen will increase the cost of your project substantially. Does this house have a very desirable location or other attributes that justify your making major changes to it?

  • 11 months ago

    @Martin moving the kitchen to the dining room....

    Cons would be:

    1. Where do you move the dining room? Or do you want to eliminate your dining room? And now your kitchen is really close to your living room.

    2. Moving plumbing would be an expense.

    3. what do you do with the big empty hallway where your kitchen was?


    Pros:

  • 11 months ago

    Sorry @Martin Phone is acting weird.
    If you aren't worried about the cost of moving all the plumbing and just want a big great room with your kitchen in it, what do you think about moving it along the back wall of your living room with a streamlined wall of slab front cabinets on that wall. And have a monolith-style waterfall island in front of it. Looks like the attached but in your color scheme.
    I wonder if your new hallway followed your current lineup of cabinets, could that give you enough room to expand Room 3 to add a bathroom? I mean if that would be of value to you. Maybe enough room for a hall closet too. Just trying to think outside boxes.

  • 11 months ago
    last modified: 11 months ago

    I'm no expert and have no idea what things cost but I believe the house could be dramatically improved by moving the staircase (where does it lead?) to the right. Then:

    • You could have a hallway that would lead to the three bedrooms from the dining/living room instead of a door from the kitchen.
    • Yes, Bedroom 3 would become smaller but still the same size as bedroom 2.
    • The short wall that separates the kitchen from the dining room could be eliminated making the entry to to the kitchen wider and therefore more accessible from the entry and dining room.
    • You wouldn't have to cut the kitchen cabinets and counter at the left of the range at an angle to accommodate entry into the kitchen.
    • The entry area could be larger and more welcoming instead of being so tight to the staircase.
    • You could remove or keep the door from the kitchen to the hallway (I'd probably keep it).
  • 11 months ago

    Yeah... Where does the staircase go? I was thinking this floor was all you had to work with and the rest was just attic or basement.

  • PRO
    11 months ago
    last modified: 11 months ago

    Here's one idea if you are willing (and it fits in your budget) to remove most of the load bearing wall in the kitchen. It would open up the kitchen allowing for a narrow island or work table. It does make Bdrm 3 smaller but, as you can see, it still accomodates a full size bed. And, yes I realize that traffic does still go through the kitchen but it's not through the working area of the kitchen. If you are looking to open up the kitchen to the living space, you could do a half-wall and an open staircase to the lower level.











  • PRO
    11 months ago

    Here's another idea if you can't remove the bearing wall in the kitchen. Sometimes if you open up things just a little bit, it's surprising how much it changes the look and feel of the room. If you do a large cased opening, to the hallway, it will make your kitchen feel much bigger. A cased opening is nowhere near as costly as removing the entire wall. I also opened up the area around the staircase a bit. Your kitchen is very similar to a kitchen we did for our daughter. She also only had 90" of width in parts of her kitchen. We did 21" deep lowers (instead of the usual 24") on one side to widen the aisle and put some seating at the end. It works very nicely for them.




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  • 11 months ago

    Madden, Slick & Bontempo, Inc: "We did 21" deep lowers..."

    Perhaps with this additional storage on the right-hand side you could eliminate the angled cabinets (and countertop) at the end of the left-hand row and substitute an 18" cabinet for the 15" which would allow easier entry to the kitchen and more counter space to the left of the range.

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