No Crazy Love for me, I do have Crazy Fashion!

Jena,

You sound like ”Wonder Woman,” tackling your indoors & outdoors! Your home will look spectacular when you finish!

I painted my upstairs 5 bedrooms over a few years and many hallways & some of dining room & living room. I had a painter finish living room/dining room. I did painting when I was working only part-time. Now I am full-time working outside the home so no painting for me.

Do you have a job outside the home, too?

Your rose order looks AMAZING!

Roses I know well, some I have had, some I wanted but could not get (Wellenspiel) that will do really well for you: Wellenspiel 2016 intro to Germany, Dark Desire bred 2003-US patent 2015,, Poseidon US patent 2013, , Mme Annisette US patent 2016. , Pomponella-registered 2005. All newer Kordes varieties! The Pride is fabulous, too!

I have not had Larissa, a Kordes, she’s an older Kordes bred before 1988-hmf says very disease resistant-GOOD!

Rosenfaszination-excellent disease resistant-newer Kordes, 2016 patent US ! I Have not had before, sounds good!

Pompon Veranda, older Kordes, bred 1999-Intro in Germany is cute, but has a propensity to attract mildew all season last year-I tossed her; however, if you keep her in the brightest sunlight, , spray her the minute you see any, pick off all leaves effected, and she may be super healthy then.

When a rose has had BS fungus, if you start over, PICKING OFF every leaf, the new leaves don’t get it, often, for a long time anyway! It grows beautiful all new keaves. Old leaves get BS fungus.

OH, except for mildew fungus which attacks new leaves. Then pick off effected new leaves

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I have a lot of ”newer varieties of Kordes-a long list, which do well! . I can share list sometime. They are my most diseased resistant roses!

The other roses you ordered are lovely! I have heard many good reviews, although I have not grown them here. I also order, as you know a lot of DAs, Japanese and European roses, but some need spraying. I have talked to Cornell & with our unusual rain now, I wait until I must, but I soray to save them all.

There is a nursery garden out near you….. Diane knows the name. He has only disease resistant OGRs. Really beautiful gardens. With our last 2 years of more rainy climate change I dont know how he has done.

I used to not need to spray as it was much drier all season-no fungus, either. . Our weather changed in last 2 years so I am rethinking my gardens now. They are still beautiful and putting them all in full sun really helps!

ROSIE FRIENDS!!!!!!

JENA,

NANCY Lee,

SD

CAROL!

And others who want Sunrise Parfuma:

Thank you, Ben! Sunrise Parfuma’s a Kordes rose, other name is Grossherzogin Luise.

Sunrise Parfuma, alias Grossherzogin Luise, LOOK FOR: Grossherzogin Luise! same rose is NOW AVAILABLE TO SELL ON:

1. SpringlandFowers website $49.98, shipping add= $65.78 total which I ordered TODAY! OWN-ROOT.

OR

2. Flower Explosion price $59 add tax , total??? Own-ROOT.

SOLD OUT: 3. Etsy, Ergongzi, sold out on Grossherzogin Luise. None on ETSY now. 🤪😊🥀

If you want her…. you can still order!!!!!!!!

SpringlandFlower photos

WOOHOO! For Sunrise Parfuma! ALIAS GROSSHERZOGIN LUISE!

Hybrid Tea, Spicy cinnamon cloves-peachy aoricot fruity fragrance, 65 petals! Yummy!

Kordes! Very disease-resistant! Reminds me of my Georgia Peach, but Sunrise Parfuma is a much bigger rose bush!

TRIVIA-

Grossherzogin Luise (Sunrose Parfuma) was Princess Luise Elizabeth of Prussia 1838, before marrying Grossherzogin. I think I will call her, ”Princess Elizabeth, after my daughter Elizabeth!” My daughter has strawberry blonde hair like the center of the rose, too!

(I ordered Crazy Love from Palatine, but she’s pretty, too too-I will put her in back garden.)

Here is a review for Sunrise Parfuma , there are an option to turn on English subtitles

https://youtu.be/yThCHhZ3Erg?si=fViPAT9LuzB3zei5

NancyleeCanceled, so glad tgatbuou were able to grab Our Anniversary, wait until you see her color

Whoever got Roberto Alagna, score! That is a great rose

It sounds like things were fast and furious, more so than usual. If you missed out on Jalberts he will be offering his roses through Heirloom after the first of the year

Kitty - oh, my!! Those pictures are to die for!!! They probably won't ship to Canada. And I wouldn't want them now, anyway. :) That was interesting trivia!

Kristine - your roses are so beautiful!! :) :)

I was looking at Broceliande when all of a sudden I saw the cart button for the first time in days, clicked it, and saw a message at the top that it was added to my cart. I was very much in twilight zone for a second and had to snap out of it. So grateful I had a list in front of me because I could not think and had to remind myself to breathe slowly. My heart was racing and my hands were shaking. Definitely more intense of an experience knowing it was the last chance. I was able to get all that were on my list and one that I had crossed out the night before but couldn't resist (Meine Rose) in the heat of the moment.

I got:

Amour de Molene - for my momma

Broceliande - a replacement for one that expired

Dark Desire - for my momma

Fur Elise - a first

Gruaud Larose - a replacement for one that expired

Madame Anisette - a third, but first on multiflora (I am sooo coocoo for this rose!)

Meine Rose - a first

Roberto Alagna - for my momma

Sunrise Parfuma - a first

I plant and tend my momma's garden, so I view it as an extension of my own collection :)

I hope everyone has a great spring with these amazing plants. I can't wait to see pics and hear updates! Sounds like we as a forum grabbed a nice variety this time around.

Based on Ben's comments about The Pride being tested in Texas (if I remember correctly), I was thinking maybe it would become available in the states in the near future..

ROSIE FRIENDS &

Sunny Mississippi,,

DOES ANYONE STILL WANT TO ORDER:

THE PRIDE???

THE PRIDE, Nirp HT rose is sold out on Palatine, but …………it is available to order on: Plantroses PlantRoses-ETSY for $69 then add tax/ship.

I have purchased many roses from Plantroses-expensive, but reliable-LOVE THEM!

I just ordered THE PRIDE from Plantroses, ETSY!

PlantRoses photos,

THE PRIDE,

Lemon-grapefruit fruity strong award winning fragrance! 5.5 inch blooms! 5ft tall! Medium green glossy leaves. Very disease resistant! YUMMY! I had my eye in her last year -don’t know where I will put her???? Hee, hee!

Reninds me of similarity to Eisvogel, but bigger rose…. The Pride may be more lavendar.

CAROL,

Do you have Nirp’s, The Pride?

Any photos? Gorgeous rose!

Do you think Violet’s Pride had ruffly petals or just round ? Pretty floribunda blooms!

I had Violet’s Pride, if its the Downton Abbey rose series. Blooms were beautiful, small (but floribunda). Mine was long between cycles is why I sp’d it, but the blooms were pretty!

Kitty,

I’ve had The Pride for a couple of seasons and it has proved to be one of my very best roses. Huge, long lasting , petal packed blooms with good fragrance, very generous flower production. He’s tall , so site accordingly. So far The Pride ihas been a far better variety than Eisvogel. Eisvogel grows like some Kordes roses, too much plant for the number and size of blooms it produces. The Pride grows like a rreally great Meilland Romantica, traditional HT growth, extremely productive, huge English style blooms. My friend trials roses throughout the country and says The Pride has been a real standout.

The Pride

Here's a picture of a bloom on my Violet's Pride so you can see the petal shape

It was a very good bloomer for me. The blooms lasted for weeks and weeks.

Hi, Carol ,

Thank you! Violet’s Pride is beautiful-excellent blooms! She did very well for you! Looks like an English rose when starting to opens, but ruffly and swirls when open. . I checked my ohotos… they were oretty , but my blooms were young so I was not sure of her shape. . I see her shape now. Maybe similar to The Pride, different bloom shape, but VP is maybe smaller bloom & lavender and blooms more because it’s a floribunda. . The Pride is lavendar & peach/mauve, big rounded petals shape, & bigger bush-a hybrid rea. Both beautiful roses!

Thanks for the tip, Kitty, on where to find The Pride. When you order from Plantroses do they ship now or hold them till spring if you want? They would be reliable about shipping later? What size rootball do their plants have? Where is Plantroses located? Those are beautiful pictures of it. Sounds very fragrant , and like it has good vigor which is not always the case for lavender roses. I like the tawny shades it can have.

Those are pretty pics of Violet's Pride, rosecanadian. Love Song is another one I want.

Carol, If my Violet’s Pride looked as beautiful as yours, it would still be there with the addition of 2 more! I may have to try it again. How old is yours?

Kentucky - yeah, mine didn't do well for the first 2 years and then poof!! It bloomed well all summer, except for one long break. The blooms lasted and lasted. I'm in love with it. The only thing is there doesn't seem to be much fragrance...and I usually give roses the boot for that...but I can't seem to do that for VP. Mine was 3 years old. Thanks!!

Thanks, Erasmus!!

Kitty - thanks, Kitty. I was really impressed with her this past summer. And it's really healthy!

Erasmus,

The Pride is beautiful lavendar-mauve-peach-Love her colors! And big plump 5.5” blooms!!!!

You’d love her!

Plantroses , Etsy, is in Atlanta, Georgia (at least first shipping origin.) You can track shipments on Etsy. I think she’s reliable. I have received several roses from her at diffetent times. Write her a message with your order & ask for a shipping month or date. I ask for sometime in the month of Feb or April so she has flexibility to meet my need.. If you dont specify a shipping date then she ships as soon as possible, may be mid-winter. Plantroses rootball size? I have found all these Asian sellers prune the root ball back to maybe 6 inches downward or small anyway to fit into a baggy with some soil added. I pot them the day they arrive. No worries. They seem to grow fine and leaf out in 1-2 weeks-fun to see these babies grow.

The Japanese roses range in size from 3/4 of a foot to 2 feet. Plantroses seem almost 1 foot tall-some canes thicker than others.

I asked Ergongzi to ship for me in Feb, but I have 3 now coming this week from Plantroses & Jamuary thatcI want to grow in kitchen forca jump start.

Some examples of my roses from Plantroses:,

Hiraku,

Dec. 9th, 2024

From Plantroses, 1ft. tall,

(Growing slow in winter kitchen w/ minimal grow lights .Started purple leafing out. Has not added height yet. Nice leaves, though!.)

Hiraku

Should look like Plantroses’ photo below.

Mahogany Veil , Dec. 9th,

from Plantroses

Leafing out a little.

Mahogany Veil

Plantroses photo

Kitty,

What’s the rootstock on Plantroses?

Kitty, are the Japanese roses, fragrant? Is there some reason for the short height but large flowers?

HIraku with those ruffly petals is very different. and beautiful form on the Mahogany Veil.

Kentucky,

All the asian roses which I have ordered are ””own-root.”” They have their own variety roots.

Many Japanese roses are fragrant…. most are florist roses which may be smaller than 5ft when fully grown. Some reach 5ft like Miyabi. It’s all individual.

Prairiemoon,

Thank you about Hiraku & MV-gorgeous roses!

The sellers choose to sell the baby plants so one waits until they mature-they are small babies in spring & starting summer. . Some have big blooms, some have smaller blooms. All of mine have had really colorful, good sized 2nd blooms! By the time spring gets them growing for me in June-my first best week of rose blooms usually, its really sunny and even though plants are small they put all their energy into blooms! I have very rich soil and use Rose Tone & fish fertilizers so they really love to bloom well for me. I put out new soil & fertilizers and cow manure every new season. My Japanese/ Euro Roses had fish fertilizer weekly for awhile, too.

Liquid Fish fertilizer is considered one of the very best-really fabulous! (I combine Alaska Fish Fertilizer with Alaska Morbloom Fish fertilizer) -to get balanced NPK-and it really gets them growing faster-greener and blooming well!!!!!

Yes, I guess it’s interesting that my small baby rose bushes have such big blooms-guess they love their fertilizing nutrition and June/ July sun brings them into bloom. When sun is optimal roses put all their energy into blooms instead of growing. With super nutrituon you may have really big blooms!

From My Liquid Fish Fertiluzers:

N-nitrogen fertilizer puts on dark and more green cane and green leaf growth, which mine get from Alaska fish fertilizer.

And….. K-phosphorous which is a lot in Alaska Morblom Fish Fertiluzer helps blooming.

And P-Potassium, in Morbloom FF, helps with root growth.

And Rose Tone, A granular fertilizer, slow release through the month, it has everything organic-delicious for roses!

Lots of fun! —————————————

@BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)

WOWZA! On lThe Pride! Fabulous News! Looking forward to that blooming machine w/ plump colorful blooms! Thanks for the heads-up and your photos are stunning! So is The Pride your best lavendar? Do you have Violet’s Pride or Poseidon-the 3 P’s. LOL ? I will be interested to see which you love the most after you try Love Song?

Kitty - oh SWOON over those Hiraku and Mahogany blooms...they're going to be so beautiful in your yard!! Maybe you'll even get some blooms in the kitchen. Who knows? :) :) It's exciting that you're getting those lovelies!!

Kitty, you are certainly working hard caring for your roses! But clearly, you are enjoying it. Thanks for sharing what has been successful for you.

So, you intentionally ask for delivery in the winter months to get a jump start growing them in your kitchen? Do you use a light set up to do that?

Kitty,

Between The Pride, Love Song, Poseidon and Violet’s Pride, I woud say all 4 are very worthy in the garden and among the very best lavenders. The Pride is the most impressive as a cut flower, huge very fragrant full English style blooms on a big healthy HT plant. Love Song is the best garden display incredibly generous large flowered floribunda with a perfect rounded plant. Poseidon is very generous, disease resistant and among the bluest of the lavenders. Violets Pride is also a perfect floribunda like Love Song, perhaps not as big fluffy blooms, but it is very fragrant. I think which ones you get are just a matter of what your priorities are, they are all winners.

Poseidon

Thanks, Kitty , for the additional info. I think I'll wait till spring to possibly try one or two of these vendors.

Did y'all see where Palatine posted on Instagram today the roses that were most sold and the ones that sold out first? I've never seen them do that before and thought it was fun to know. Pompon Veranda sold the most and Double Amber sold out first.

So funny—when I suggested Rachel that they supposed to look at this metric, they just ignored it, saying a single picture posted could completely change the trend. Now, when someone asked them how it helps to know which roses are selling first, they replied on Facebook that maybe other sellers could use this info.

Looks like they’re still not over their rose business yet.

Let’s hope they change their minds!

I talked to Rachel a couple of times back in 2014 or so. I got my Augusta Luise from Hortico in 2013, and people here wanted to grow AL. I suggested that Palatine try to stock AL, and she was very negative. After talking to her a second time, she said they might stock AL eventually, but just sell it locally. I understand that Tantau had no representative in Canada or the US. This was one excuse, but then how was Hortico able to sell it? I saw Marina's AL in 2012 on HMF and asked her where she got her AL, and she said Hortico, so that rose was available for several years then. But 2013 was the last year Hortico sold it. At that point, Palatine should have jumped in to try for some Tantau roses. But I'm sure I don't know the whole story. Funny, Palatine eventually did sell AL, but it took some time and was only for a few years, if that long. Diane

Sunny - that is interesting to know which rose they sold the most of and which sold out first. :)

Did anyone find out the reason? Retirement?

They're getting older and want to downsize a bit. They'll still sell roses on-site and will continue with their main focus...fruit trees. :)

Fruit trees, shrubs, food forests etc are a huge trend right now. A lot of people have moved homes and/or moved into their first homes from apartments etc during the Covid period and are planting veggies, herbs, fruit etc. "Homesteading" is still big too. With the economy the way it is and groceries going up including organic produce and the constant food recalls lately. I think its smart for nurseries to branch out into edibles.

Glad to hear their nursery will still be there. Downsizing would be good for them, they have worked so hard for many years.

I hear you Jasmine. I am doing the same thing here, growing fruit trees veggies.

If anyone missed out on Sunrise Parfuma, Star roses will be introducing it in 2026, along side Martha Stewart (currently available for 2025 from Edmunds), and Purple Aura (currently available from Grace Rose Farms).

https://issuu.com/starrosesandplants/docs/25-26bloomablesbrochure?mode=window

LOL, the description on Purple Aura says ’excellent performance in the West’. Let me translate the Starrosespeak for those of you in the South and East: ’Danger! Blackspot magnet!’.

Christian - good to know! Thanks! I did miss out on that one. Here's hoping all of us who missed out can get one. :) :)

Ben - yup, so true. lol

Ben - I too find it humorous how corporations rather say something in a round about way rather than being direct about a issue. Luckily I live in an area where disease is almost nonexistent (powder mildew pops up once in blue moon).

rosecanadian - Sunrise Parfuma is beautiful but I think I’m more interested in Martha. I find the description of her fragrance (citrus and honeysuckle) very appealing.

Christian - I've never smelled honeysuckle...wish I could smell it right now so I could imagine the fragrance. :) :)

Ben, thanks for all the information you share! On Reddit you can give on an award . Here is the best I can do.🏆

Carol, never had you smelled honeysuckle😢. It's divine. Do they not sale it in Canada? I planted mine right by my bedroom window so I could smell it when it bloom.

Carol, not only does honeysuckle have a wonderful fragrance there are some beautiful cultivars. Here is the one I currently grow called Peaches and Cream. Deliciously fragrant and productive, in the two full seasons in ground not a sign of disease or aphids. I used to grow a variety called Gold Flame and it got aphids so bad 90% of the buds were destroyed before they could even open.

Another rose with a fragrance like Honeysuckle is New Zealand a gorgeous scent and color but it doesn’t seem to handle heat well so I never purchased it.

Some photos of Peaches and Cream this past August.

Christian, in the dry, hot summers of Idaho, how could you get aphids that bad? I hardly get them. I'm sorry you had this problem. Diane

Diane, until this summer I would’ve asked the same question about the aphids. I was shocked, when I saw aphids, ignored them thinking they would go away since I spray Bayer insecticide every 2 weeks and you don‘t get aphids in the heat of summer. Later I saw an article about ”moth aphids.” The aphids stunted my mini’s.

Kentucky, what aphids I get just need a water spray to get rid of. Otherwise, the heat and dryness gets rid of them for me. I don't get rose disease here, so I never spray for anything. We're lucky in that area. I'm sorry about the moth aphids, a new one to me. Not many insects out here in the desert hills either. We don't even get moths much. Bees of all kinds are the biggies here and I love them. Diane

Bumble on Lavender

Diane, it was on one specific variety of honeysuckle ’Goldflame’ and that was the only plant that ever got them it was usually the first flush in late May and early June before it got really hot and after that failed first bloom the plant mostly just pouted and never did anything the rest of the year, I didn’t even try it here in my new garden. Peaches and Cream has been a night and day difference for me.

If you Google Honeysuckle Aphids you’ll see the little buggers and how they attack the clusters of buds.

SoCal - Yes, I've probably seen honeysuckle plants at greenhouses, but they've never been in bloom. :) Ooooh...yes, right by your bedroom window so you can smell the blooms at night. :)

Christian - I don't think I've ever seen a honeysuckle bloom on-line. Yours is really beautiful (those colors!), and I had no idea that the blooms looked like that. So cool!

Diane - I love bumbles...the belted ones are so beautiful!

Palatine nursery is now offering 1.5 grade bareroot roses at a discounted price. There's some real goodies being offered. Get them while they are available!

Bellarosa - thanks! I'm going to check them out. Are you going to get anything?

Ascot. I have missed it every year. If anyone knows where I can buy it, please let me know. I also wanted Pompeji

I just visited website and don’t see them. Are they already gone? Ignore, I just found it.

Kentucky_rose - no, they're still there...for example, Blue For You is #1.5 grade.