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Any ideas how to make this room an office for two people?

last month

Here is the current office (pls ignore the mess). Frankly, its barely functional. For the person on the left you are stuck in a skinny corner with a tall cabinet looming over your side. The leg opening is barely 25". For the seat on the right, the leg opening is also too small, I don't think it was built to be used a desk.


Any ideas on how to rebuild this room to accommodate two people working? The floorplan is below - note there are two doors.


Ideas we've had:

-Rebuild one long deeper desk facing the wall with larger openings for legs. I don't love this for lighting reasons and I don't love facing a wall.


- L shape desk going out in the room (I don't think this will fit because the desk needs to be wider and then also have two chairs that need to get pushed out


- A desk by the window? The window starts a foot off the ground so I don't love this either.


Thank you for your ideas!









Comments (22)

  • PRO
    last month

    Or a straight desk with shelves or art above. You could utilize the opposite empty corner for storage by building floor to ceiling built in cabinets.

    notnyc thanked Markham Interior Design
  • PRO
    last month

    I don’t love a desk in front of the window but if you really want a view for your desk you could have a L shaped built in desk with one person facing the wall and the other facing the window.

    notnyc thanked Markham Interior Design
  • last month

    Close off the door on the left. Run two built-in desks/storage down each side of the room facing the walls.

  • last month

    @Markham Interior Design thank you! I originally thought of the first option but with the peninsula desk being open and us on either side facing each other, but I think it would have to be extra deep and then we would need room for two chairs. So your option of facing the wall makes sense. One of us needs 3 monitors so I have to make sure the nook is large enough. I'll be honest, I don't love the straight desk idea cause it reads like a children's homework area to me. Although in reality it will be a wall of monitors, so not exactly nice either....

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    One of the (many) things that constantly confuse me in this forum is the adoration of built ins. It makes issues like this unnecessarily complicated because of the finishing details that have to happen to place a built in around/near a window or a door. Back in the dark ages, putting a free standing desk in front of a window simply meant putting a free standing desk in front of a window. If a room had unnecessary doors taking up space needed for furniture, the furniture was just put in front of the door.

    So I'd start by shopping for office furniture.

  • last month

    Put the straight desk on the wall between the doors if it fits. Then replace the top where the desk was and the corner part. Attach a keyboard pull out under the new counter where the desk was removed. That will leave a nice opening for a chair. Leave the top cabinets as is.

  • PRO
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    I am so over this work from home issue!

    divide to a height that accommodates monitors/ have a view out the window.You do not need two ways into the room.



    shelve to the ceiling each side by desk. Pocket the entry door from whatever living room or space that is.

    You will both have a view to outdoors. you won't be staring at one another, You each get 8' of desk area, less whatever files you want below your desks.

    That wall probably need not be more than 66 inches in height.

    Is what it is.. either make it work for work, or find another spot for one of you.

  • last month

    Good advice already -


    are you up for removing the built-ins for a clean slate? - thinking there is not flooring beneath them

  • last month

    @la_la Girl yes all options are on the table, including starting from scratch!

  • last month

    @JAN MOYER how much room is needed for a chair to be able to back up? I don't think we have that much room (60" for 2 desks, plus two chairs which are also about 30" deep, plus room to get out). Basically I'm stuffing the room from wall to wall.

  • last month

    Close off the door next to the room marked 16'2" . Then put one row of desk space dedicated to each person on that wall and the opposite wall (replacing the annoying cabinetry). That will give you both the option of turning toward the window to relax, but will keep your backgrounds glare free for the monitors.


    A comfortable, workable desk is 30" by 60". That is a standard size, readily available from Office Depot, furniture stores, etc. Desks and chairs do not need to match: each should be chosen for its user. You can choose desks with keyboard trays, too.

  • PRO
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    @JAN MOYER how much room is needed for a chair to be able to back up? I don't think we have that much room (60" for 2 desks, plus two chairs which are also about 30" deep, plus room to get out). Basically I'm stuffing the room from wall to wall.

    You have a room 12'10" wide. /154"

    64" inches = two desks w 4" /wall between

    That leaves you 90" tot and each of you 45" to back up a chair- you only need 36"- 42 to do that.

    And you do not need desk chair 30 inches

    deep and they should have an arm that allows a close pull to the desks.

    ( 30" is lounge chair depth , a couch is common at 36" )


    Even an 11'6 dimension would allow 37" each.....to back up.

  • last month

    I like @apple_pie_order's layout. You might not even need to remove the second door. Put the 3-monitor desk on the long wall where the built-ins are. If the other person uses a more typical desk size, you can put a normal desk on the other wall. Reverse the door swing, either opening towards the corner or opening out into the larger room.

  • PRO
    last month

    also, you said

    "-Rebuild one long deeper desk facing the wall with larger openings for legs. I don't love this for lighting reasons and I don't love facing a wall. (turn your head right or left....I put you in line with the window)


    and

    "- L shape desk going out in the room (I don't think this will fit because the desk needs to be wider and then also have two chairs that need to get pushed out

    - A desk by the window? The window starts a foot off the ground so I don't love this either.

    One of you doesn't want to stare at a wall, the other needs three monitors.

    You have supplies, paper, a printer........and you need to ELIMINATE on entrance.

    : )


    .

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    Markham Design's idea is brilliant--peninsula/storage dividing the room with straight desktop running across the wall. This would be so much more workable than all the pieces you have, which are so dark and heavy. Here are some variations. Check out Pinterest by putting "small two-person office" in Pinterest's search engine.






    Do some serious paring down of paper, supplies, and so forth. Relocate things you don't use every day elsewhere. Paint your walls a light shade of the ivory of your rug if you're keeping it. The green makes it seem so dark.

    We need to see all four walls of the space so please take two more photos. This is especially true of small spaces. Here's how to post a Design Dilemma in the future:

    You need to show the whole space—all four sides of an entire space—even if it’s about one specific Dilemma. Commenters need to see doorways, windows, closets, finishes throughout the space to make informed suggestions. In open spaces, Commentors need to see adjacent spaces like living, dining, family room areas that adjoin a kitchen. This is so finishes like cabinetry, paint, and flooring harmonize in the while space.

    State right at the beginning what the room will be used for and who will use it. State the non-negotiables at the beginning, what has to be kept. Give some idea of the budget. And provide approximate measurements

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6417709/unofficial-design-dilemma-boot-camp

    Keep in mind that you're inviting some design pros and people with a design eye into your home via photos. If they walked into your actual space, they would take in all of it: all four sides, doorways, floors, windows, ceiling, built-in fixtures, lighting, trim--the "givens"--then the features that can be changed--furnishings, paint, art, rugs, decor items, etc. It's all one first impression. Same thing with photos. That's why it's important to provide well lit photos of the entire space, taken from all sides of a room regardless of the size of your problem.

  • PRO
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    Is it work and function.....which includes storage, or you hate the way it looks

    There IS such a thing as a top down bottom up shade in a window, rendering this a non issue



    Or just pick a poison. Plenty of knee room, plenty

    of backing up, plenty of wall for three monitors and storage below .

    Either way.....your built ins go to a dumpster. And you lose one entrance.



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    Say more about what the office needs and what your work life is that takes place in here. Answer for person 1 and person 2:

    How many monitors:

    - Do monitors need to be wall hung

    - Does can your keyboard live on the desk surface?

    - What other electronic items need to live on the desk surface?

    - Do you want a standing desk?

    - Will a modem be in here and where?

    - Do you need a place to sit liquids away from your electronics?

    - Zoom meetings - how often, any zoom background considerations needed

    - Do you use a printer ever, how often, and if so does it need to be stored in this room or do you have a closet nearby that it could be stored in?

    - Do you have any physical supplies?

    - Do you have any paper files?

    - Do you need any sound privacy?

    - Do you need to consider location of electrical outlets or is the room small enough to use surge strips where needed?

    - Do you need to consider glare from windows on monitors?

    Houzz is a fantastic place for up to date info on kitchen and bathrooms. But office considerations often seem old school to me. I do not know anyone that uses a printer or has paper files, but do know many people that have multiple monitors. I don't know anyone that uses a keyboard drawer. Most people I know are attorneys, researchers, doctors, non-profit workers, and IT folks. Perhaps there are other industries I don't keep up with that require these things.

  • PRO
    last month

    The keyboard drawer and tray went the way of the DODO bird.

    Which hopefully will happen to this work from home trend 100% most days a week : )

  • last month

    Remove everything that is in there now.


    - Built table top desktops in the configuration below in pink.

    Have all desks be tops with legs or wall mounted, so they are very open underneath. If you need drawers for storage at some point bring in modular drawers on wheels that can go anywhere under the open desk space. The room will look and feel much more open and your legs won't be trapped.


    - Have 3 monitor person in an angled position in the corner. Nice configuration for 3 screens.


    - Have other person (you?) with the entire run of the wall where the window is. Hinge the door to open out into the breakfast nook instead of swinging in to the office. You can play with where you want your monitor to go all along this stretch.


    - Inventory everything you need in this room and keep it minimal. Do NOT add shelves or cabinets unless you really truly need them for storage. Having the walls empty with just some artwork will make the room feel much, much bigger.


    - Desk chairs are in blue.






  • last month

    I hope more people consider the sit stand desks more often. If you are at monitors a lot at least stand for as much time as possible. Poppin makes nice solutions for this:

    https://www.poppin.com/

  • last month

    Keyboard drawers are rarely seen nowadays. Keyboard trays are enormously popular.