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Remodel Master Bathroom ideas for a larger shower & freestanding tub

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One remodel option in our master bath is to get rid of the jacuzzi tub/deck in the bay window area and use that for our sink/vanities (so we can expand our shower and add a freestanding tub where our old 96" vanity was). The new vanities would not be nearly as wide, have angles in them, and would be opposite one another in the bay window area. We are trying to create a cabinet/counter design that would maximize storage, we prefer under-mount sinks, one spot to be a makeup station with bench, possibly open shelving for towels, and enough wide drawers for all storage needs. The granite counter would be flush with the window sills ( 35"). Complicating the design is that the toilet around the corner of the left side, is going to be flanked by the shower glass, so if we start the vanity right at the beginning of the wall to maximize the vanity length of 47.5 " it might look like a tunnel leading to the toilet, so maybe leave 4-6" of wall space open before starting the vanity? But now the vanity is only 41 " wide plus the angle under the window which is dead space. That same wall also has a ceiling change height at 12" in so will it look funny have different site lines.... Any design ideas welcome! (Measurement of bay starting left side: 47.5" then 37" window 1, then 55.5" double window, then 37" window 3 then 47.5" tof wall to the bathroom door.

So the whole reason for moving the vanity into the tub area was to be able to expand the neoangle shower

shown in the 3rd photo below (house plans) to a 36 " x 5 foot rectangle shower, and put a free standing tub

where the original vanity was... but maybe it makes more sense (and is cheaper ) to just put the free standing tub in the bay, and cut the vanity down from 96" to 90 inches or so... (originally we were just going to leave the jacuzzi and work with the other side....this is truly a thinking process!) Any suggestions appreciated!









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  • last month

    We need a schematic with measurements to understand this.

    My first thought is why not put the free standing tub where the other tub was? Not moving plumbing which makes it cheaper to start with.

    bclomax thanked RNmomof2 zone 5
  • last month

    Thank you for your response! I am having trouble loading pictures...



  • last month

    Thank you again for your response, as it turns out, that is probably what we will do. It will make the room much larger taking out the tub/deck, and makes more sense than moving everything (vanities) to the bay. More room for the tub and relocating it as well. It's definitely a process thinking of all the options. Appreciate your timely response. Have a great day!


  • last month

    When I bought my house five years ago there was a ginormous Jacuzzi tub in the bay window area (like yours). Even though it was in the bay it looked like it took over the whole room (mine was not as recessed as yours). We replaced it with a freestanding tub which looks much better. Since you have a large vanity I think you have room to expand your shower and cut back the vanity by at least a foot. You don't show your vanity, but maybe a newer one could be configured better. You could also add medicine cabinets if that would help with storage. Our vanity is 84" and we have medicine cabinets which is plenty large enough for us (your mileage may vary).

    bclomax thanked kandrewspa
  • last month

    Thank you for your response :) You are exactly right, by putting in a new rectangle shower, (@48") our 96" vanity will be cut down to 84 " or so and since we are also increasing the height from 32 to 36 " after new counter, we should get similar storage capacity. I love the width of our 96" vanity (34 years old so ready for an update) but it's worth it to get a nicer bigger shower. Also, it will look like a whole new room once the jacuzzi is out.

  • last month

    I feel the bay window area screams tub luxury. Reduce your existing vanity to expand your shower and but in a free standing tub or deck tub in the bay but smaller decking. If you find storage an issue maybe two nice tall cabinets in the bay on the side walls would be nice.

    bclomax thanked Lorraine Leroux
  • last month

    Thank you!! ~ that is exactly what I was thinking as well, add 1-2 tall open cabinet/shelving on the side walls.

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    Can you show a much fuller picture of the this living floor?Fill in ALL the dimensions , clearly on what you posted above- they are hard to read.

    The last thing I'd want, if I could avoid it ?

    A smack dab front view of the toilet: (

    bclomax thanked JAN MOYER
  • 21 days ago

    Thank you for your interest! Just posted the schematic of the bathroom~wracking our brain trying to think of how to reconfigure everything to fit a larger shower. We have several versions but would appreciate any professional advice you can share.

  • PRO
    21 days ago
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    @bclomax

    Don't float the tub...float the shower!

    Literally. But make a bit of gorgeous at the same time



    As a lot like this! below....But the nature isn't within the shower, It's beyond the glass on back side of the shower.




    Bonus

    No great distance/costly moves in plumbing, and a hiding spot for the toilet, usually not a HUGE problem. I really would try to skip the darn toilet door. Unless on the reverse shower locale pic down below.

    Forget any tub, there's no way to get it, not even free standing, that doesn't severely cramp all else. You can't move the door from the bedroom down that 47" wall - you'd be outdoors and unless you show the suite, the hallway outside your primary bed, and all the W.I.C closet space? You're at this....which lets you.....

    You keep all the light from the window bay.

    a bathroom loooves plants and a window.

    Don't even ask how many of these Mc Mansion baths live on.....because nobody knows w.t.h to do with them.: )

    Could be gorgeous! Gets you a great!! shower and the largest you will ever get in this bath.. Just as luxurious as any tub floating in front of a window....and if a tub can float at a single wall or entirely why not the shower? It's just contained water.

    Where I noted 1/2 wall....

    make that level with bottom of windows, OR use the bench height and it's glass above that. So....you have three"wall" of glass, and only the one full plumbing wall.


    Opposite direction pic below, also probably not a gigantic plumbing issue. I might like that even better.

    Easier clearance for toilet door..and I'd mirror that toilet door in a single heartbeat.for a nice full length look at yourself without going back into the bedroom , and bounce more light around . You will want to close potty door (given outward swing, when not in use ), and I try hard not to be less than 42 inches wide , especially with no window - too claustrophobic.





    PS......VANITY in the bay? Tried it: (

    Crowds any decent spot for shower and any toilet out of front/entry view ( talk about NOT luxurious ) and isn't the door to bath usually open?

    Any size shower where/toilet/and current shower live? Nope. Not good either! Grrrrr

    A bath need not have a tub, floating to be Luxurious.

    Your bath, due to that bay and tub, door locale all considered?

    Reduced the real effective/usable space to a 5 x 12 1/2 bath.....unless you re think how a bay can be used better, in consideration of all the other "issues"

    would like to see the OTHER options you considered. Post them!

  • 21 days ago

    Thank you for the detailed drawings and ideas~they are beautiful! If we hadn't converted our only other upstairs bathroom from a tub/shower to a standing shower only (my elderly mom lived with us and needed a walk-in shower) we would not be hesitant about giving up our tub. But for resale we would not have a tub in the house. Also, I failed to share that the wall you have the shower head on is an outside wall, although that could be rectified by building an inside wall for the plumbing. I am going to try to post another idea, which inclusdes moving the toilet and adding a single vanity into the bay along with a tub. Let me know what you think!


  • 21 days ago

    PS I like your layout much better...but still wondering if somehow we could fit the shower AND a tub into that bay?!

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    This is just a picture of the side (of my recent plan) with the vanity/toilet/shower. Would have a half wall like that one too to separate the toilet area and shower. Searching for one with a vanity and tub in the bay! Maybe in vain...

  • PRO
    21 days ago
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    "PS I like your layout much better...but still wondering if somehow we could fit the shower AND a tub into that bay?!"

    ________________________________

    I tried and detested them all. The bay is both too big.........and too SMALL.

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    How long are you staying in the house? You do remodel for you, not for the next person. You converted a tub to a shower - you don't think someone could reverse? : )

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    "You have the plumbing on the wrong side)

    It's reversible I gave you both ways.

    As to tub on angle? Just feels choppy for a lot of money? No hide at all to the loo

    HI! I've got a cool TUB

    ( and you will find 36 x 72 the most available/prettiest

    Together.....





    Still like the no tub: It doesn't scream just another bath?

    It's YOURS not mine: ) you have to do what works for you : )


    Do you float often?

    Are you in the bathroom together?

    How much junk must you store

    Do You float very often alone or together ........yes, repeating myself for a reason

    Pick what works for you

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    21 days ago
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    With this? I'm out

    Why? Because this was just plain B.A.D from the 1990 get go, and there's only so much you can do.



    Tweak to yours below........ as you can see I rather loathe the big spend to have a 32 inch toilet space that barely meets code jammed in,...........BUT? You never did show the entire second floor as requested, so this is a stab in the dark.

    LIFE gets super busy, but if you disappear from your thread for 20 days, you lose the engagement from more replies/concepts etc, and maybe even a generous soul like @ Mark Bischak who'd get bored and elevate one or two....lol

    "asking for a friend" : )" hahaha


    bclomax thanked JAN MOYER
  • 20 days ago

    Jan, thank you for your prompt reply. This is my first "go" on Houzz posting to get ideas, and I also appreciate your design ideas/tips to be successful using the discussion page. For what it's worth, I literally spent hours trying to get pic's on,, both times, as they needed to be converted to JPEG and I had no idea how to do that, I did not realize you meant you'd like to see the whole 2nd floor (but I can see why now) and I was out of town over Easter for 12 days visiting family and did not have access to my computer, so hence the disappearance. Again I appreciate all of your input and I thank you for your time!

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    20 days ago

    Wellll : )

    This does get you 90% of what you want and if you could sacrifice a bit of walk in; its an ATTRACTIVE bath?







    I totally agree, the "how to Houzz for best answers" is MIA at the header! It drives us nuts, because we beg posters for the full "context" in the same words...... over and over.

    So........if you do scare up the chance to post the whole picture? Great! We may see something you do not.

  • 20 days ago

    Unfortunately no room in the walk-in-closet to use for new toilet room in bathroom~here is a plan of the 2nd floor...before we added on the bay in bathroom. Kids gone, just trying to update the bathroom with best use of time and money/aesthetics and enjoy using it before we move on in 4-8 years. Toilet not visible from majority of bedroom even with door open. Getting much better at adding pic's but cannot get Houzz on my phone to work!


  • 20 days ago

    Initially just thought to keep toilet where it is, keep tub where it is, and just lengthen shower by a foot but still angling it in, by reducing vanity length by 12" ~ but still worried the toilet area will feel even more cramped. Code for toilet width was even less back in '92 and we have a whopping 28 inches for toilet presently.

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    Look, all I know is you've got quite a generous bedroom.......but

    A broom closet for a shower

    A toilet that meets NO code!! of today. Code represents what is just "tolerable" based on the size of human beings, no different than doorways and where they really matter, or matter a wee bit less.

    You're worried about NO tub in four bed, 2.5 bath suburban house.......?

    You consider:

    What do people tend to want in a primary suite?

    A VERY good shower, good looking as well.

    Toilet privacy of some sort

    A two person, 2 SINK vanity

    A linen closet

    The floating tub.......until they realize they never used a tub, don't use it when they DO get it. Or can't end a day minus a soak. You can't predict this one...you really can't

    Adequate WIcloset AND yours is

    essentially outside the "bedroom proper" and outside the bath!

    and in the bedroom? Usually a hardwood floor, sand on site or engineered or mimic in LVP- maybe 30% will tolerate wall to wall.

    Sorry.........but I go back to this.

    Only because it ticks as many boxes as possible and trust me...39 inches x 60 will, with a bench? Feel huuuuuge compared with the broom closet.

    It just happens to have no tub.



    Were I you, as none of us know your neighborhood, what others have done in that neighborhood, what the school system is...or anything else? Knowing my stay was 4/8/whatever years and that NOBODY has crystal ball?

    Talk to a realtor or THREE. : )

    NO MATTER WHAT? Every thing on earth sells at the right price. A home sells for what someone will pay, and that is what it is "worth", no matter what a realtor may deem it is worth.

    That said? If people look a very well done bath? I bet a tub in there is "forgiven" . jmo

    I'd definitely forget this

    "Initially just thought to keep toilet where it is, keep tub where it is, and just lengthen shower by a foot but still angling it in, by reducing vanity length by 12" ~ but still worried the toilet area will feel even more cramped".

    Accomplishes not much and it surely will be cramped. Second choice?

    This.........BUT you're each getting a vanity



    Suburbia buys for school district, beds.....and BATHS.

    also a kitchen that doesn't scream for a lit match,

    but if it does the buyer will let you know via $$$ offer.

  • 20 days ago

    okay....thanks Jan hahaha feel like I've overstayed my welcome with this post :))) (not because of you, you've been very generous) , just because there are SO many variables to remodeling). First thing we did was talk to a realtor and will talk again...after doing comps etc his advice was don't overdo a big remodel but that was his advice, another said go for it. But, like you said nobody has a crystal ball. Thanks again for your reply! PS Our kitchen is bomb by the way...!!!

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    PS a broomcloset for a shower. ?!! HAHA love it! BTW By bomb I mean a great kitchen, not that it needs more than a lit match...!

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    20 days ago

    Then you have your answer!! do it for you!!

    Bother? You must be new: )

    Some of these thread go for........YEARS.... AND MANY MONTHS ON KITCHEN AND BATHS

    bclomax thanked JAN MOYER
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    18 days ago
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    Dani is 100% correct on the free stand tub.

    It's hard enough to be on your knees with a toddler at an ordinary alcove tub....

    It's impossible to lean over the edge of "sculpture" .

    Which means the tub is for you alone, and will not make up for an alcove in the other bath. If the little kids are four, or more. ...they will use mommy's tub OR THEIR OWN shower.

    Buyers have teens?They will thank you for no tub in the other bath, and could love either scenario in yours......

    The wow bath is the shower only. Jmo :)

    bclomax thanked JAN MOYER
  • 17 days ago

    Thanks for all the input!! We definitely need to do some soul searching...appreciate all the perspectives. I'm looking at your plan again Jan...do you show low storage all around the bay that wraps around the shower?


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    17 days ago
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    @bclomax

    Review........: ) Pics

    You want to be able to GET to those windows. See below. Sketch and the previous inspo

    Could you make it storage? Yes, but not Tile and a solid surface...and you want to leave room to walk behind the glass of the shower, for opening or cleaning windows.....

    and you want to KEEP privacy on those windows!!!

    Truth? You don't have to have anything back there,,,,maybe a couple very pretty plant stands?





    This is the type of thing I call design/build

    When demolished? You chalk it all off on the floor!

    Remember this is the internet from your sketched and your measure. : ) accuracy counts when you demo! to the last inch

    bclomax thanked JAN MOYER