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Can You or should you Frame a Drop-In Tub Like an Alcove?”

last month

I want to turn this drop-in tub into an alcove tub shower combo. I can add a tile flange from the manufacturer and my contractor can tile around to make a skirt , but is this begging for trouble ? Here is the spec sheet

https://file.mtibaths.com/pdf/product-specs/tubs/tub-106andrea16-specs.pdf

Will the water always run off into the floor?

Comments (19)

  • PRO
    last month

    NOPE. You need to ditch the drop in and use a tub with an integral tiling flange. That big wide deck of the tub itself will gather moisture that will run out on to the floor, and the field applied flanges never work long term when attached to a tub that isn't the right style.

  • PRO
    last month

    Ditto and no other way without a real mess . I have no idea how a tile flange istalled later would be possible never heard of a compnay that supplies add on tile flange , sounds bad to me Sell that tub and get the right one for the job . While you wait for the new one all the waterproofing can be done since there is none at the moment . I guess I am asuming you are reusing a tub you already own.

  • PRO
    last month

    This is WHY you stay in the same thread, and you have two on this tub. .....

    As I asked on the other? What have you been soaking in until this new house? There are plenty of deeper water ALCOVE tubs, meant to do the double duty of tub time and shower time.

    Go to a good plumbing supply in your locale. Not the big box store.

  • PRO
    last month

    Can you? With the right conditions, dimensions and skill - yes. Should you? No it is not worth it and the risk and all the extra work.

  • last month

    Thanks Debbi , that is what I am wondering . You can buy drop in tubs with a tile flange installed at the factory , but I was not sure how risky it would be. A drop in gives me more size options but seems like it could be a bad idea.

  • last month

    Jan , sorry if I broke proper posting etiquette 😔.

  • PRO
    last month
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    We have installed drop ins with the tile flange and it has been fine. It appears that this company offer it that way as well. The trick is the framing of the wall. Also make sure you measure the bathing well of the tub. Sometimes a regular tub gives you more room than a drop in model. Also, some drop ins have the offering of a removeable apron ( especially if it is a whirlpool ).

    The best thing to do is to call the tub manufacturer and verify that it's ok to use as a shower as well as a tub. That is what I would do.

  • last month

    Thanks Debbie . That is good to know .

  • PRO
    last month

    It appears that you have the tub there? I would set a level on the flat parts of the tub to see if there is any sort of pitch towards the tub for drainage. If not, then I would definitely skip it because you will have water pooling that you will have to constantly wipe down.

    Annie Henmore thanked Debbi Washburn
  • last month

    The tub I just purchased and you see in the photo is a 72 x 42 alcove and
    There is a pitch towards the tub , but this tub seems like it’s too long for me. My feet are along way from reaching the end. There is no water to the house so I can’t turn it on to try it out .

    The space is 72” x 42” .

  • PRO
    last month

    You can either get a foot pillow or see if you can return it for a 66" unit and the reframe the walls. But you need to do that fast.

    Annie Henmore thanked Debbi Washburn
  • last month

    @Debbi Washburn

    I have decided to return the tub. If i can with a smaller 66 x 36, how would you reframe the walls so it doesn't look bad.


    Our vanity will be installed right next to the tub . It will be on the side opposite of the plumbing .

  • PRO
    last month

    It is just simple framing. I will look like this ( except your plumbing is on the opposite side )



  • PRO
    last month

    No, you can not use a drop in as an alcove tub. And I wish clueless decorators would stop trying to make that happen. It's guaranteed water damage to a bathroom. Stick to picking out pretty tiles. But even there, no one understands the technical requirements. So, stop playing at designing bathrooms, when you don't understand the technical aspects of any of it.

  • PRO
    last month
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    If the tub has a tiling flange, you most certainly can install it with a tile skirt. What is the issue? Not different than having a removable apron for a whirlpool that is used as a shower also.





  • PRO
    last month
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    You can technically physically put gloss tile on a shower floor too. And they can physically take down a wall without putting up a beam and post to replace the support. And you will find pictures all over the internet of stuff being done wrong. Doesn't mean it's the correct choice, and the correct way to build out a space. People do incredibly dumb things all the time that are possible to do, and only hurt themselves, and their home value. I cannot believe a so called pro would advocate for dumb and wrong. Just goes to show that anyone can call themself a designer, without knowing anything about industry standards. You should learn from this to read manuals, codes, and trade publications. And learn to distinguish between an alcove tub and a drop in tub, because 2 of the pics you posted are alcove tubs with tilable aprons, not drop in tubs.

    Drop in tubs should never ever be used as a tub shower. Not even with an aftermarket tiling flange. The large wide ledge that the water falls onto will just leak that water onto the floor. Plus, when the aftermarket flange fails, and it will, water will be inside your walls.

  • last month

    @McDonald Enterprises - what are your thoughts on tub companies who make drop-ins but can add an integrated tile flange. If I read the info right this is added when the tub is made. Some will also add a skirt
    Hydrosystems and MTI seem to have these options.

  • PRO
    25 days ago

    And this is why you vet ”designers” very well. You can end up with a burnt backplash, a slippery shower floor, and your fireplace backdrafting and starting a fire in your house. Plus rot and mold behind your walls. ”I’ve never had an issue” is code words for “They never call me back, because they won’t ever use me again.” And what that ultimately means is, “I really don’t care to know what I’m doing, and I’m not going to learn the right way either. Because I make more money doing things the wrong way.”

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