its for an ensuite master bathroom.

I would not do white tile and that size ever in a shower I like the bathrooom floor and shower walls the same tile and add lighting if the space is a bit dark. Too may tile colors and shapes IMO only make a small spacc feel and look smaller . BTW matching grout with the shower tile and floor is always a good choice too

Other than the window, there are three can lights - two in the ceiling and one in the shower. The only other lighting is the two frosted glass pillar sconces flanking the mirror.

The Phoenix Sand tile I want to use on the floor is a beige travertine style porcelain tile. https://www.flooranddecor.com/porcelain-tile/phoenix-sand-porcelain-tile-101027092.html?bvstate=pg:4/ct:q&utm_content=M-Search&utm_audience=SEMNB&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19753485736&gclid=CjwKCAiA86_JBhAIEiwA4i9Ju1A-Hmw7IlcebPoQPFaKlehw1PxAAbbs9woDfo2qOFKjPnnDyPtXzRoCQMwQAvD_BwE

plan is the same but toilet was shifted to a wall mounted one.

I agree with Patricia about the tile size. Larger tiles will make a small space feel larger. Another trick for a small space is to minimize the number of different materials used. So, in this case, utilizing the same Phoenix Sand tile on your shower walls would be a great choice. Hope this helps.

what do you consider a large tile? the Phoenix Sand tile only comes in 12" x 24" is that large enough or should I be looking at larger size tile?. I also feel it is too dark for the walls, I like it on the floor and its nice in that it is subtle enough that it doesn't compete with the taj mahal quartzite. I also don't like it behind the tub as its too dark.

I think 12x24 is sufficiently large to accomplish the task, and you can usually find a wide selection in that size. Also, if you think the floor tile is too dark for the walls, you might want to consider taking another look at finish options that would work for both the floor and the walls. Just a suggestion.

First thing I do is get the right plan- ?

Please don't use 3" boxes.

Draw this with Something more legible, and add jpegs. What is exact window , hard to read, and at what elevation from floor?

Is the tub a MUST have?

Hi Jan, thanks for trying to help. The tub is a must have. Elevation of window roughin from floor is 40.5". Rough In for casement window is RO: 34" x 41" and net frame is 33 1/2" x 40 1/2" and right side of window should line up to right edge of tub (old window is being moved as it would have interfered with shower. Sorry about my plan, it was really not supposed to be for other people and I don't have access to a professional program so I used graph paper and made it fit what I had. I also taped out the whole thing on a large patio to make sure everything felt okay, and I asked an aquaintaince who is an architect about whether I should do it or not, and she said it would work. The rest is just working with contractor who is guiding me on what will work in real life. We are at tile stage, all the waterproofing and plumbing and framing is already completed, but I got stuck on the tile part. I originally loved zellige tile in the shower and behind tub (seems to be popular right now) but I'm concerned that it will be too much. I also used zellige style tile in our other bathroom and the undertones did different things than I expected which is fine for that bathroom but I didn't want the same in this one. Real zellige is gorgeous but not all that practical. Makato shoji white is similar in that it seems like it gives an organic handmade feel which is kind of what I like about zellige, and it is tonal but it won't shift into purple like the other zellige style tile did, it will stay neutral. I will attach some photos of the bathroom in current state. Let me know if you need anything else.

Also i wanted to keep it light and neutral and organic, which is why we are using Taj Mahal stone and subtle travertine patterned porcelain flooring. We did something similar in our other small bathroom that has a different exposure and I really like how it came out. But this room is northern exposure so i'm afraid of it feeling dark, and after a family member who has totally different taste than I do stopped by and gave me her opinion that was not to do anything I had in mind I thought better to ask people who do this all the time for any advice instead of random family member. I am truthfully confused and depressed (and grateful to all of you for any advice you can spare to help get me unstuck)

Here are items that will go in bathroom (mirror, stone, lights, fixtures are all staying, just tile needs help - paint is supposed to be White Dove but not sure all my colors are correctly displaying- for instance travertine tile is much lighter and much beiger than it looks in room, it actually tones in nicely with the Taj Mahal sample I have)

Well. You're committed to the layout.

Your slab is reserved In the Taj Mahal, for counter and shower curb?

What is the floor IN the shower? Have you taken a box of the floor tile TO the slab and laid it out in front?

I only ask as Taj can seem a lot of gray with a LITTLE beige, or a bit less gray, depending slab.

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Then this!!!!

Other than the window, there are three can lights - two in the ceiling and one in the shower. The only other lighting is the two frosted glass pillar sconces flanking the mirror.

Call that..........Not enough electricity!

Add !!. Over the 60" vanity /2 recessed , 4" max, one either side of sink. Temperature? 3000k

Two over tub, or at least one, same 4"

You have darkness at night, unless you're at the north pole? Lose the "issue" with the northern light. The light in shower should be combo fan/light., or put it just outside shower.

Back to tile.......? The most noticeable elements in any bath? Bathroom floor and shower walls.

I'd let the Taj go. If you love the Pheonix sand? Repeat it on the shower walls. Does it have a "companion mosaic" ? Put that on SHOWER floor!

Now........as to counter top? Don't be hung up on a "Stone" ! Want it light? There are a thousand Dupont Corian whites. Yup.....the original solid surface. You can use same on a curb.

Willing to be MORE organic? Soapstone! Fabulous with wood, with the Pheonix.

You are stuck on making a NATURALLY light bath. It won't happen: ) Concentrate instead on a beautifully simple bath, ANY color!!!! And use the gift from Ben Franklin!

Here's a north window......dimmed by foliage, and the west is as well. Soapstone on the counter. Black mosaic on the floor of a shower unseen, with shower walls AS bath floor.

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Okay so we were going to run phoenix sand into floor of shower as that makes floor look bigger. It does not have a companion mosaic. We are not fans of corian or quartz unfortunately so we would prefer real stone, so soapstone is an option thank you, although I like the way taj mahal looks more than soapstone. We have not purchased the taj mahal yet, it is a remnant. Just curious, why are you against the Taj Mahal in this instance? I do agree that soapstone is a classic stone. Also unfortunately I have tiles stacked up vertically in the shower and I really don't like the phoenix sand behind the tub and in the shower, although I like it on the floor. And based on what you are telling me, you are not in favor of the Makoto tile. Okay. Thank you for your help, it has given me some things to think about.

Just saying, the LAST thing you want to happen, is the " Pheonix sand" takes on a pinkish hue, and you've got the Taj with that, and then a tile on the shower walls, you don't even NEED, and again....what is on the shower floor?

All of that, the result of seeking natural light.?

You can get "organic" in a lot of colors. Pheonix isn't "dark", you 're looking at it in a dim light where nothing, no color, comes alive until YOU light it up.

I see so if I'm understanding you correctly its trying to avoid competing undertones which soapstone doesn't have the way TM does.. yes that's been an issue for me as my eye is very good (degree in fine art a million years ago). Is there a floor tile that you would lean towards if we did want to continue with Taj Mahal? I did use phoenix sand with taj mahal in my other bathroom and it does tone in okay (but yes that was a different remnant). That said the sample I have is from the remnant they would use.

Okay so 1. more lights. 2. simplify as much as possible.

Just throwing this out…we picked a floor tile that had a matching smaller shower tile but the shower tile got back ordered or lost so the tiler cut the large tile into smaller squares. He did a great job cutting evenly and it looked good and matched. It’s an option.

thanks. We are fine with the way we are doing the floor in the shower. I'm just stuck on tile in the for the shower walls and behind the tub. I went looking today and I really don't like the idea of putting the floor tile on the shower walls. It's not light enough, it doesn't look good with the gold fixtures.

GET RID OF THE BASKET light- it suits.......what? Not gold fixtures, which are not all that "Organic" , but are a done deal..

You want to be "organic" /light. "California whatever"

You either love Pheonix sand, or you don't. Clearly, you don't love it enough.

A SHOWER floor needs a perfect pitch to the drain. Any larger format tile on a shower floor, needs to be planned for, needs a linear drain and appropriate pitch,

Find a dedicated tile store, get some help.Taj Mahal isn't the only counter top. It's a 22" x 61" surface, and a curb top. .....!I would get a honed or leathered black Virginia Mist granite, which strongly mimics soapstone, is inexpensive, easy to source even in a remnant. Looks great with gold fixtures. Free yourself from the Taj, and start over with the floor. Find something you love enough to use on shower WALLS, tub walls, and that bathroom floor. ........and hope it has a mosaic companion. It's all you need in an 8 x 8 bath.

Try Daltile. It is often an in stock , is loaded with porcelain that will have companion mosaic.

Move past the idea that you will have success in making a bright bath with any tile,- all will need the electrical BOOSTER.

If you LOVE the shoji, do it! Deal with the grout, which is frankly a function of adequate ventilation! A fan!! The bath door left open and the fan running after a shower! What on earth is the worry with "MATTE" . Organic California doesn't even suggest the shine of tile and really doesn't suggest gold in the fixtures! You're all over the place.

Shoji, might mean you use a wood look porcelain tile on the floor.....and then you still need a shower floor unless it is also the Shoji,

Back up.....clarify the look, let go of the Taj.

"Dingy".............is a lighting factor, not a matte or glossy factor.