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design help for Japandi-style front dining area in narrow row home

25 days ago

I’m designing a Japandi-style row home for a client, and I’m struggling with the layout for the front room (12'11" x 9'1"). This space is intended to function as a casual dining/breakfast area rather than a formal dining room. The clients would like it to have a relaxed, multipurpose feel — possibly with a small dining nook setup and a couple of accent chairs for flexibility.

They’d also love to include an electric fireplace with floating shelves on either side, but I’m worried that too many built-ins might make the space feel overwhelmed since the kitchen is directly adjacent and the house is quite narrow.

My main challenges are:

  • Finding furniture placement that feels balanced without feeling cramped
  • Integrating the fireplace and shelving without making the room feel heavy or cluttered

I’d really appreciate any ideas, layout suggestions, or inspiration photos that might help bring this space together.

Thank you!


Comments (17)

  • 24 days ago
    last modified: 24 days ago

    Best bet for Houzz input is post the entire first floor as you state you are designing the home.. What i dislike so far is kitchen smack in the middle especially w a bath destination footpath way too close to island and really in the kitchen . Prefer: kitchen at one end or the other and the rest of sq footage for living space designed for use w careful furniture placement . Change : door to bath rotated around to the small wall where sink is. as said post the first floor…


    kitchen at one end or the other in rowhouses....japandi or whatever style is irrelevant until space is laid out in best possible way.


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  • PRO
    24 days ago
    last modified: 24 days ago

    Small space so be creful f adding anything to make it smaller and that includes a FP . I cannot imagine an eating space and seating there at all. BUt of course we need the to scale plan and some pictures too. IMO no way does a 48" table and 2 chairs fit .

  • PRO
    24 days ago
    last modified: 24 days ago

    ^^^

    It fits, and so too other ways......

    I believe the ROW house already exists as drawn

    Those are her dimensions - maximum as it will hold.



  • 24 days ago

    The space is very similar to the interior of an RV. Like the Keystone Montana 5th wheel models and many others.

  • 24 days ago

    Can a small electric fireplace be built into the end of the island? Perhaps a lounge area with a good coffee table for sitting. I can’t see both comfy seating AND dining.

  • PRO
    24 days ago

    What is the purpouse of the electric fireplace? More of a visual thing, or more of a warm/cozy thing? Maybe turn to the way Japan treats small spaces like this. Like using a heavy cover on the table with underheating, lower seating rather than Western dining height. Or planning in electric carpet that can be turned on when in use.

    I kind of like the notion of a fireplace in the end of the island. Very unique. Whats the brown bit in the bottom left corner by what looks like an entryway? Could that be used to put in a fireplace?

  • 22 days ago

    The client would like some sort of feature wall with a fireplace built in. The island will hold most of the kitchen storage, so i didnt want to take up storage space on the island. The brown bit is a built in coat closet.

  • 22 days ago

    we were thinking of doing a built-in L-shaped baquet behind the built-in closet (bottom left). A 42- 48" round table would comfortably fit in that area, with enough walking space. Everything in the drawing is to scale.

  • PRO
    22 days ago
    last modified: 22 days ago

    "The client would like some sort of feature wall with a fireplace built in........"

    Everything is to scale............

    For which there is exactly ONE area with dimensions........!?



    "

    "we were thinking of doing a built-in L-shaped baquet behind the built-in closet (bottom left). A 42- 48" round table would comfortably fit in that area, "

    "They’d also love to include an electric fireplace with floating shelves on either side, but I’m worried that too many built-ins might make the space feel overwhelmed since the kitchen is directly adjacent and the house is quite narrow."

    YOU are the designer, you have the client, You have ALL the dimensions. You sit down, figure what of their wish list can be accommodated. Because they are your clients: )

    It is a 9 by 12 space,. all else is passage and traffic and with a banguette and the table?

    ...........................See what "easily" fits: )

  • 22 days ago

    Is this kitchen already existing? I think it's a little oversized for a rowhouse. Would they be willing to eliminate the wall ovens and pull back the kitchen to give more space to the sitting area?

  • 21 days ago
    last modified: 21 days ago

    Electric fireplaces get hot. I don’t see a safe location in the tight spaces. I would be concerned about someone leaning or brushing up against it inadvertently.

  • 21 days ago
    last modified: 21 days ago

    If spent years in Philly row houses of this size and appreciate that your clients want an uncluttered Japandi look. It would be helpful to have more information:

    What other lounging spaces are in this house, on this floor, and floors above?

    Do you intend seating at the island?

    How many people live in this house? Any children? Who will be eating in this space and how often? Is this the only eating space?

    Is there a back entrance? If so, which will be there primary entrance? Will they have kids with strollers etc?

    How high off the floor is the window sill in the front area?

    This will all make a tremendous difference in how you arrange this work horse of a space.

    Immediate thoughts:

    Feature walls with fireplaces and decorative shelves really need some distance to be visually enjoyed. Row houses, especially with the divider closet by the front door, don't have enough of a vantage point for this. This seems like more of an instagram idea than an actually good spacial layout idea -- *especially* since they favor a clean Japandi aesthetic.

    If they are dead set on the fireplace wall, I'd just have comfortable upholstered seating in this area and no dining nook. If they enjoy sitting and eating in a loungey space, then have good side tables that can hold both a plate of food and drink.

    Alternately, make this an eating space without a fireplace feature wall. It is just too cluttered of a backdrop. Don't use a corner built-in for seating. It is just never all that comfortable and ends up looking cramped. Use either a round table with comfortable upholstered chairs. Or, if they really love to spread out and hang out at a table, do a long table against the wall, like this:



    (Though, who really wants to see yet another rectangle in a rectangular room with a rectangular island?)

    Instead of floating shelves, build recessed shelves in the walls. It is a cleaner look. Add lighting hidden LED lighting for each shelf. Add them to just one side of the fireplace. It will be less cramped and the asymmetry will be nice.




  • 21 days ago

    Thanks for you input kendrah i really appriceiate it. to answer aome of your questions, there are no children in the house, it will be two young adults (sisters, in their early 20s). there is a large living room at the back of the house which isnt shown in the image i posted . there will be 5 bar stools at the island they initiLly didnt want dining area but then changed their kind because they both work from home and wanted another area they could sit down and work. i will bring up some of your sugestions. they definitely want a fireplace. you are right tbe bultin bench and fireplace is very instagram but i can only advise, at the end of the day it is thsir home


  • PRO
    21 days ago

    Out of curiousity, what are the codes on something like this? I know the general ones of keeping at least 3 feet clearance in front of the fireplace, and 3-6 inches to the sides. Some manufacturers have additional space requirements. Does your area have any other code requirements on it?

    Space for seating or walking around a table is being spoken of. But you do need to remember you have to carve out a 3+ foot air space around where ever that fireplace goes.

  • 21 days ago

    It is a zero clearance fireplace so

    technically it could be right next to a combistible material, but we usually stick to 6”around and 24” clearance in front

  • PRO
    20 days ago

    Is that for code requirement, or is that manufacturer requirement?