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Kitchen Reno - Stove size and double oven dilemma

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Hi - I'm very excited to be able to renovate our kitchen but quickly learned my dream of a 48" gas range with double oven was not possible due to space and budget (labor + appliance cost). We current have a wall double oven that only one works and we've been managing fine except for holidays which we take turns hosting. We can fit a 36" range but debating if we should do a cooktop and double wall overn or just do the inline range with only one oven. I really don't love wall ovens and wanted that space for a built in coffee bar or pantry (we don't have a pantry). I love to cook...will I miss double oven even though I've lived a lonngggg life without one just fine!!!

Photo of current kitchen, planning on moving the stove to where the double oven is...that wall is 78"




Comments (19)

  • last month

    We have a 36” range with oven below it. This slightly larger size is very handy. We also have a 30” I think wall oven. Love having two.

  • PRO
    last month

    IMO if you do not like wallovens this is a no brainer get a 36" range with a good sized oven and maybe for those odd times when you need something just a good yaoster oven type might work . It looks like you have a MW beside the wallovens now so why not look of some of the new MWS with convection

  • last month

    It would be great if you could post your layout with measurements. The space gurus here are really gifted, they might be able to improve the way you use your space.

    That said, if you don’t love wall ovens, why buy two of them? You can get a 36” range with an oven you use daily, and get a single built-in convection speed oven that you can use instead of a microwave.

  • PRO
    last month

    Seems wasteful to purchase appliances just to accommodate a holiday. That kitchen is not that large to devote so much sq. footage to a rarely used appliance.


    No basement, or garage to hold an appliance?


    I don't know how my grandmother managed to get dinner for 18 on the table with 4 burners and one oven for decades. People manage with much less.

  • last month

    Are you shaming someone for doing a kitchen Reno and wanting two ovens? Who cares how your grandma managed. If someone wants two ovens so be it.

  • last month

    I have the combination microwave/convection oven that Patricia Colwell mentioned. I usually use the convection function when we have guests. Mine is a GE Profile.

  • last month

    If you want 2 ovens, id look at a slide in double oven range.


    we have one and love it. the smaller oven heats up quickly and we use it so much, but having the 2nd larger one comes in handy a-lot.




  • PRO
    last month

    The OP does not like wall ovens so IMO why have one at all

  • last month

    If you don’t want two ovens then of course why have one. But if someone wants . But if someone wants two ovens one of them would likely need to be on a wall. So really Thats the decision. Maintain Tue convenience of two or just have one if that is preferred. There is not int wrong with having two if that is wanted and nothing wrong with one of Thats wanted

  • last month

    Thank you for all the insight, its helpful hearing different perspectives.

  • last month

    I personally prefer a cooktop with wall ovens but that's just me. That's what we did when we remodeled our kitchen in a previous home and what we have now - though now it's one oven, one microwave and a warming drawer. I get along pretty well without the second oven as long as I have the warming drawer. I'd want a real exhaust fan over the cooktop so that wouldn't work with your current layout. You could possibly have a wall oven stack where you have it now and a cooktop and exhaust fan along that same wall. Then if you're having a peninsula or island it could be free and clear and preferably all at counter height vs. the two levels you have now.

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    We don't use the range oven in the induction Miele. Even with steam. The air fryer/toaster oven is more convenient and faster. Stainless interior cleans easier. Ninja DT 501.

  • last month

    Don't get an oven like Wsea posts unless you want to sit on the floor to check food in the oven. Seriously, the bottom oven is at floor level making it prblematic to see into if you are tall. KIds had one like that and they couldn't replace it fast enough.

  • last month

    Rangetop and double ovens, one a combi steam. Would never go back to a stove. Wall ovens heat up much, much faster than stove/range ovens, and are more ergonomic. Easier to view inside the wall oven(s). Less bending.

  • last month

    I have the oven which is in WSEA's post and I hate it. The bottom oven (regular size oven) is so low. Anything heavy (especially turkey) is tough to get out safely. I'm worried about the oven as I age because it is significantly harder to lift a hot pan from the ground. The smaller top oven is easy to use, but so small. I miss my old wall oven because the height was superb. But even a standard range oven is easier to use.


    That said, depending on age and what you cook, the lower oven may not be an issue. (I do go to pilates 5 days a week and run twice a week, so I'm not totally out of shape...)

  • last month

    @Jen L your experience goes to show how cooking style can impact what is useful. the top oven is perfect for roasting veggies, broiling food etc which is most of our oven useage

    . we use the bottom oven for taller items like chicken, pizza ( bc we use a steel and the air circ is better in the larger space.) i get concerns about lifting but Im surprised you are challenged with it based on your activity, i don't work out as often as you, im in my upper 50’s and have no issues with using the bottom oven. maybe b/c its less frequent for our cooking our kitchen is small by US standards so no way would a wall oven fit.




  • last month

    Show us the refrigerator wall and a dimensioned plan and you might be pleasantly surprised with what ideas are generated

  • last month

    Your kitchen is already pretty, but I'm curious - is there some kind of countertop venting for the gas cooktop shown on the counter?