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should I paint the brick 1949 ranch?

20 days ago

Hi, all. I'd be very grateful for any thoughts on this query. I have paid off the mortgage on my 1949 brick Ranch, and am preparing now to invest some time and money in its care. The house has evolved over time; part of it is the original medium/dark red wire-cut brick, and then a newer section which I'm pretty sure was a former double garage and is now the master suite, is covered with vinyl siding. We are going to invest in a number of improvements to the front of the home, including enlarging the stoop and widening the steps, removing the awning over the front door, putting a sorely needed new roof on, replacing the guttering, removing the vinyl siding and replacing it with cement fiber board, and cleaning up and improving the landscaping.

My question to you all is this: should we paint the brick? I am genuinely torn about this. I'm drawn to the idea of painting it all white so all the pieces come together, but if we were to do that, it would never ever be a red brick house again. It's been a red brick house since 194& and part of me feels I should respect that. 🙃And there's the maintenance of the paint. Painting brick, especially white, is being done a lot and is almost a cliché around here, but it is for good reason, as it does pull things together nicely. The house is in the South Carolina upstate, so it rarely freezes, in terms of fears that the brick would lock in moisture and damage the brick with repeated freezing. So I don't really think that that is much of a consideration.

I guess my second question would be if we did paint the house white, what kind of materials we might best use for the new stoop, which will have five stairs steps down to the yard. Stone is an authentic material for these parts, so that would be an option, among the other options.

Thanks for any help! This community was super helpful when I posted a Q about the improvements to the stoop. What a great resource.

Comments (31)

  • PRO
    20 days ago

    No to painting the brick. Instead, check local suppliers for a match and see what it would cost to replace the vinyl with brick.

    Since you are reroofing, consider rebuilding the roof to create a covered porch.

    Choose a darker shingle -- charcoal or maybe a dark gray.

    Gutters stay white, downspouts should match the brick, or the surface behind them so they blend in.

    Work on landscaping.

    No need to introduce stone.


  • 20 days ago

    Thank you! That's an interesting suggestion to change the roof over the kitchen bump-out to extend over the eventual new porch.

  • PRO
    20 days ago

    I I agree to redo the roof to provide a much nicer cover at the stoop . I never think painting brick is a good idea IMO it instantly devalues your home . A nice color that works well with thr brick for the left side could even be a dark gray depending on a better close up of the brick to figure out color .

  • 20 days ago
    last modified: 20 days ago

    I wonder if something like this would work for you. Stain/paint the new porch and steps and match the parts of the house on the left.

    This color and design is...? TBD. I don't have software....just a concept sketch.



  • 20 days ago

    Thank you!

  • 20 days ago
    last modified: 20 days ago

    You could add wood around the big window instead of painting the stucco.

  • 20 days ago

    NO!

  • 20 days ago

    @tracefloyd- I'd really like to do that (add wood around
    that window) but my husband is pretty firmly opposed because he is concerned about trapping moisture and then rot. But I love the idea of the wood trim.

  • 20 days ago

    And so far it is five zero against painting brick!

  • 20 days ago
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    It does not take a freeze for trapped moisture to damage the mortar and cause failure of the brick so make sure it is properly primed and sealed.

    https://www.marthastewart.com/how-to-paint-a-brick-house-7486559

  • 20 days ago

    I will read it, thanks!

  • 20 days ago

    I also say dont paint the brick. Put siding on the addition, that can be painted the color of the brick, or try to match the brick, and reside with brick instead of regular type siding. Your brick is very nice.

  • 20 days ago

    It's not my house, but if it were, I would not paint the brick.

  • 20 days ago

    Congrats on paying it off. I see no real reason to paint the brick. The current color will be a nice backdrop to your new landscaping.

  • 19 days ago

    No. Painting. The. Brick.

  • PRO
    19 days ago

    I was thinking the same as Sigrid - extending the roof at the front over the entryway. That should give you a better composition overall.

  • PRO
    19 days ago

    I am not in the camp of being against recoloring the brick.


    Just know that if you do you NEVER USE EXTERIOR ACRYLIC PAINT because your brick with crumble.

    You can limewash brick or use masorny paint. Sometimes it's the right thing for a mousy little house to pull it together.










  • 19 days ago

    Those images are pretty persuasive!

  • 19 days ago

    A lone voice for painting! That's the draw of the paint, though. The tidiness of it. 💜 Although here in Greenville we sit in red clay so that does splash up a bit.

  • PRO
    19 days ago
    last modified: 18 days ago

    As suggested by others, I would paint the add-on section siding the same colour as the bricks as well as the gutters downspouts. I'm showing a black roof with a widened section at the front to cover the porch. Also showing the modified porch I suggested in your post from yesterday where you'd be able to show columns if you modify the roof to cover the porch.



  • 19 days ago

    Consider all the 'updating' as one plan. Does it all fit together? The stoop changes, roof changes, and color changes all have to work together at the end. And all too often, AI renderings lie, so they can't be depended on.

    The biggest issue I see with the house, is that the front door is hidden by the protruding wing from the driveway. That type of thing can often be helped with landscaping, including walkway planning. Redoing the stoop isn't going to help that unless the stoop becomes disproportionally enormous. I'm also not convinced extending the roof over the stoop is going to work because of the differing roof planes.

    For reasons I can't begin to understand, houses with both brick and siding all too often are done with a color of siding that has absolutely nothing to do with the color of the brick. The usual solution is to paint the brick and the siding so they 'match'. However, they won't match. Since they have different textures, the play of light and shadows will differ, making the same color appear different. The goal should not be to make the siding look like the brick, but to make the two materials complement each other.

    This strikes me very much as a situation where a lot of $$$$ can be spent on changes that don't move the needle in an attempt to bring the house into the 2010's.

  • 19 days ago
    last modified: 17 days ago

    ..."into the 2010's". Good point. It is worth thinking about keeping the integrity of quirky retro architecture and play up a perceived drawback. Here is only red and blue paint and a blue new roof and front walk.



    According to your other post about the porch, ditch your screen door since the front door swings inward for easy access.

    We installed a screen at our front door that retracts to one side like a roller blind and works great.

  • 19 days ago

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO never ever paint brick. Brings your home's value down everytime!

  • 19 days ago

    All so helpful and many thanks to @lisedv for further renderings! Great inputs on painting siding to match brick, and the ins and outs of that. You know, I definitely don't want to spend a whole bunch of money bringing the house into the 2010s, and I see that that is a danger. That's why I'm hesitant about painting the brick, because I do want to respect my little house and its humble origins. I want to pull the vinyl off because I would like to replace it with something that has more integrity, though my husband points out that then we're just putting a bunch of plastic into the landfill, which is of course true. And I want the new stoop/porch structure to make the house feel more open and welcoming, and also safer, because right now it's too small and the platform is not particularly safe in that way. I don't want to tart my house up, if you will, but rather to respect it, enhance it. This house is a lot like me, a little bit old, a little bit battered, but solid. 🙃

  • 19 days ago

    I commented on your stoop dilemma. I moved from a 1949 wire cut brick Cape Cod in upstate NY 13 years ago. I don't think I could have ever painted the brick. I like the idea of painting the siding to match the brick and extending the roof line over the front stoop so you can eliminate the awning. If at some point you really decide you want to paint it, definitely look into Romabio. It's meant to be painted over brick and will keep your brick from degrading.

  • 18 days ago
    last modified: 18 days ago

    When you paint or stain anything, you have to use the right product. As Beverly explained, there are finishes made for brick.

    I agree that the house would look better with the same colour all across. The advantage of using white is that the window size mis-matches would blend in. At present, the white window frames pop against the dark brick. The gable point should not be a different colour. No shutters.

    Downspout colour should match the wall so you don't get a stripe effect.

    Add mulch to prevent soil splashing up. To avoid insect problems, use the right kind and apply correctly. link

    Remove the tree, and remove the large shrub to the left of the doorway to open up the area visually. Add taller shrubs in between the window areas, and prune the shrubs under windows so they are low.

  • 17 days ago

    Love lisedv's rendering with stoop in white, along with the end of the house in a red similar to the brick, I feel it makes the house look classy as well as maintaining it's orginal origins. The white stoop seems to me to balance things out.

  • 17 days ago

    Work with the brick. There are great photos from @lisedv that show how to enhance its current features.

  • PRO
    17 days ago
    last modified: 17 days ago

    Late in: consider all white for the body of the house, then it becomes "one". Paint the window trim black, as well as any muntins.





    Landscaping a must and you need a walk to the front door.

  • PRO
    17 days ago
    last modified: 17 days ago

    first i'd invest the money in a professional landscape redo, a new front door, and possibly building out the front porch over to the right w/a nice overhang.







    removing all those shrubs, putting in a walkway, some design, maybe a new driveway, will do 90% more than 'painting" the brick. (which btw, you'll want to use Romabio. not an actual paint)









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