I have a feeling we won't change your mind. ...............?

The reason you're having a hard time, is that the low divide , a decade ago style step up from the very traditional any percentages in sizing, has morphed to a very strong favoring of SINGLE bowls - no matter the sink size.

You will hate the idea? In practice, most (call it 99% ) folks who make the change, would never, ever, go back to a double bowl ANY configuration and any divide height

Look at that picture.with "rounded corners?" . They are a darn tight radius, and before I'd worry on the draining, far ahead will be getting the eggs and pancake scraps out of those corners,!

In single bowl? Options aplenty,

(Yes, some have a tighter radius than the super convenient Blanco Formera.

Btw, I have lost count of the number of places I have used it

@M A The sink you posted with a link is an overpriced 18 Gauge sink; you can get a much better, more durable, and quieter 16 Gauge sink with all the bells and whistles for half the price.

I have a similar model made by Kohler. The square edges/corners do require a little more cleaning but not much. I do not like a single bowl sink; I think it is personal preference.

If you must have a double do it but please no low devide that IMHO is the dumbest thing ever.The fact is most of us have a DW and often poorly utilized , pots , pans all your dishes even plastic on the top rack so not much need for double sinks . And no one better bath a dog in my kitchen.

JAN MOYER - As far as the divide, while I'd prefer low, at this point I'm fine if it's low or high if I coud only get the configuration I'm looking for (30", smaller on left and ideally, drains in back or center). And, what radius corner would you suggest then?

I currently have two bowls and I like having a sink to soak my produce to to clean it. And now even more importantly, the counter-top cabinet to the sink's immediate left is so close (too close, but it's too late now to change that). The small sink would give me a buffer zone between the sink and the side of the cabinet to decrease water splashing on the side of the cabinet. Note in the diagram below there will be a 3" filler in the corner. Note further that while there is a blind corner, the sink base cabinet will extend into the blind area 6 - 8 inches (in case that matters).

GN Builders LLC - Yes, I acknowledge that the sink I posted is spendy, but it is the ONLY one I've found that has the configuration. I even looked at getting a custom sink thru Elkay and Havens Luxury Metals, but they are even more expensive.

I did find this affordable sink: https://www.stylishkb.com/product-page/30-watertoon-s-831wn and it is "ambidextrous" in that since the drains are in the middle you can put the small sink on either side, but it has sloped sides, has a work station edge and is made of granite composit, which all eat up internal space in the sink.

I don't "soak" produce, so can;t advise unless yours are mud covered from a home garden?. If you look at equal divide? You will find a ton that meet the desired need. Yup a ton at....50/50!!

Hell would freeze before I'd waste full single bowl sink convenience, or wring a hand,,,,,,when the answer may be as simple as THIS> :) ? and 40 bucks on Amazon? and just set it in place. Good for other uses as well...

Or..................

To me? An ample bowl set in a single bowl sink to soak veggies, would make more sense, and when you enjoy that size for large pans, roasters, etc? My bet is you never look back,

Water & vinager or water and baking soda soak.

Equal divide will mean two small sinks - don't want that. Again, I'm limited to 30".

Yes, I may have to consider setting a bowl in a single sink for washing produce but that does not get around the issue of the adjacent countertop cabinet being so close.

This board is united on very few things, but large-bowl single sinks and drawers instead of traditional cabinets are two things that almost all "the regulars" stand behind.

Reasons to consider a single-bowl sink -- this assumes you have a dishwasher and don't wash a lot of things by hand:

- A large bowl makes it easier to wash a large soup pot or cookie sheet. Things that often don't fit in a dishwasher.

- You can always drop in a dish pan to create a smaller space, but you can never remove that divider.

- Every drain eats up your under-sink storage space. If you only have one drain (and especially if you place it on the side), you'll have more storage space. Who doesn't need that?

- If you have only one drain, it'll be connected to the garbage disposal. You'll never have to clean out food that someone dropped into the wrong side.

- If your space doesn't allow for a really nice, big sink, a medium single-bowl sink is still pretty big.

- Single bowl work sinks are available with a variety of very handy accessories such as cutting boards and colanders.

- The larger bowl is useful for non-kitchen projects: potting plants, washing kids' toys, bathing babies or small dogs.

Yes, I may have to consider setting a bowl in a single sink for washing produce but that does not get around the issue of the adjacent countertop cabinet being so close."

I do not mean to be dense..............

What changes.? The sink size is unchanged

The flaw is in you kitchen plan below with NO set down space left of sink. Perhaps tell us the "too late" and why?

, and your screen shot doesn't help us, show the whole 2d as a jpeg.

Yes, I have a dishwasher. Noted regarding under cabinet space, but I've deprioritzed that in favor of getting the sink configuration I'd like, if I can find it. I live alone (gasp). I don't have kids (gasp). I don't have to worry about other people dropping things in the wrong drain. I cook for one. I bake but once a year. I have an ample prep area so don't need (and don't want) workstation sink. Yes, having a larger sink for non-kitchen projects could be useful. I might consider later getting a large sink in my laundry area. My current kitchen sink is not so large and I've managed jut fine all these years. I'm just really looking for a - call it a "left-handed" (smaller on left) double bowl sink whose drain holes are properly situated.

You will not believe us. You are fighting trend and it began over a decade ago.

You can have it easily in 50/50 split. or reverse configuration, as you have noted.

Only you know what works for you I would just do equal. sides

My comment is what I don't like about what I did with the faucet placement. Because of the sink setback, plumber could not install the faucet I wanted (commercial style) because there wasn't enough room to center it. I had to choose left or right of the sink. I chose right because I am right handed. The mistake was I should have bought the sink with the largest basin also to the right. That's where the larger items go to get washed...what was I thinking? I wasn't. My personal experience with the split sink is I just don't like it. I wish it were one basin and deeper, still with the commercial faucet.

This is our sink. We put it in our last kitchen, and liked it so much that we got the same sink when we remodeled the kitchen in our current house.

We thought long and hard about going with a single sink this time, because of the strong feelings of so many on this board, but the reasons for a single bowl (like being able to soak a cookie sheet flat in the sink) didn't apply to us - I've never had to soak a cookie sheet.

In both kitchens, we put this sink in a 30" cabinet.

I prefer the more rounded edges like the sink that @AnnKH posted for ease of cleaning and the smaller sink on the left being not as far back may work well for your layout. Turning the sink that you like around will put the drains fairly far forward which seems a bit odd.

As far as the debate that almost always arises here about single bowl sinks, that is a very personal preference and depends on individual approaches to the use of the sink. I much prefer a double bowl sink, ideally with a low divide. I currently have a single bowl sink and do not like it at all, especially that a wash bin has to live in it. I have not and will not ever wash dishes of any sort directly in the sink itself, mainly due to the drain being a disposal which is a cesspit of germs no matter how it is cleaned. It is good to know what you like and how you operate instead of just going with what is popular.

" have not and will not ever wash dishes of any sort directly in the sink itself, mainly due to the drain being a disposal which is a cesspit of germs no matter how it is cleaned."

Let's just say .......amazing? )

I would assume you are washing dishes in hot water, and with bacterial killing soap. Nothing but nothing from the garbage disposal cum drain will contaminate your dishes.

Unless one is seriously immunity compromised, the ever non abating urge to obliterate every germ, every bacteria from your environment simply weakens an immune system.

I'll spare the retort and declare this bunk, or a vast portion of our population would now be long deceased.

Admittedly, this may be due to my advanced age, and yes, I am still h.e.r.e.!! Which will disappoint many of you.lol

@JAN MOYER

It is gross to me, that is all. No mater if there is scum or cum (⊙_◎). Anything that I hand wash is done using a washbasin. It is not ideal but has worked until I am able to replace the sink with an double sink, preferably low divide. The amount of water that is needed to wash in a single 33 inch sink is absurd anyways.

Do you.!! The number of things I hand wash is largely due to some being a favorite that I may want sooner than later. I don't even bother to fill my single bowl Items get detergent on a long handle scrubbie, gets scrubbed thoroughly and rinsed in super hot. As I said......still HERE : ) Decades of this......and still here. No it does not gross me out and I am a clean freak! / clean as I go cook.

The only thing left after I eat? The plate and the flatware for the dish washer, and a WINE glass.

Check with your installer. One of the gentlemen who replaces sinks and often comments on Houzz has mentioned that you can install with less than 3 inches of clearance in some of our previous posts on this subject.

https://www.fergusonhome.com/elkay-eluh3119r/s498177?uid=149678

If that one doesn't work maybe this one will:https://www.fergusonhome.com/ruvati-rvm4500/s1437589?uid=3385602

I'm one of the few who prefer a double-bowl sink. HOWEVER, the sink base should be at least 33" wide, with 36" even better.

A narrow, 30" sink base does not allow for a decent size larger bowl - the 17" in your link is about the size of the bowls in an equal-sized double bowl sink in a 36" sink base. We had that in our previous home until we redid the Kitchen. That size is too small for larger items and too big for smaller - we did not like it. When we remodeled that Kitchen, we put in a 70/30 sink in a 36" sink base. It gave us 21.5" and 10.5" wide bowls - perfect sizes!

Even though I prefer double-bowl sinks, if you are limited to a 30" sink base, I would seriously consider a single bowl and use a bowl or large pot to soak your produce when needed.

@JAN MOYER - My daughter likes to say she's "exercising her immune system" when she gets lemon in her water at restaurants or when handling menus. I'm with her on the lemon, but I draw the line at the menus - they're arguably the dirtiest things in a restaurant so I always wash my hands after handing the menu back to the server!

I agree totally with Buehl on sink sizes. I also have a large 70/30, and think it's just right. A cookie sheet fits in the larger bowl, and the smaller can be filled with soapy water for washing knives.

s m, get your mind out of the gutter, please. "Garbage disposal cum drain" means "garbage disposal with drain"—cum being Latin for with.

Jan, s m isn't totally off base. You (and I) may have a pretty robust immune system, but not everyone does. And kitchen sinks are widely considered the dirtiest, most germ-laden areas of many people's homes. I don't take nearly so many precautions as s m does, and I'm not saying you should, either, but why not make an informed choice?

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/blog/kitchen-sink-overlooked-place-food-safety

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5100818/

https://www.consumerreports.org/home-garden/cleaning/how-to-clean-kitchen-sink-and-drain-and-how-often-a2126753889/

Rinsing worry out of your hair.....^^

Go into the homes of "other people" for over thirty years and you will see why the kitchen sink is declared among the dirtiest, most germ laden place in the home- and there are plenty of others I assure you. Don't open that fridge door.

No amount of soap and water (short of scalding), is 100% effective at killing every virus, bacteria, pathogen, or germ. Though a dishwasher is the hottest water ( over 140 degrees,) will the dishes not come out into air at some point? Did you don gloves or wash your hands with soap and water and RINSE them thoroughly before you unloaded that steel box? Did you disinfect the latch you just touched?!

Soap?

Every anti bacterial soap or cleaner will say the same thing:

"Kills 99% of bacteria!" blah blah blah- but it's "only" the remaining 1% that could seriously harm you !

Fact of all hand dish washing is the break up of food residue, crud, and the soap. The soap is merely the surfactant in combination with some motion to scrub/lift . The RINSE is the far more important aspect, it IS the effectiveness. It matters not whether that is preceded by soap/water washing in a stainless sink, in a plastic dish tub, a metal dish tub or any other vessel. Hand washing is the very same process, any water temperature.

Want to totally gross me out? Bathe your baby in the kitchen sink,

because fact is the most common household contaminate is POOP, and if you do not believe it? Ask any hospital dealing with C Dif and its virulent spread.

Your gut is 70 - 80 % of your immune system, so perhaps the first check is the quality of food that was on that plate you now have to wash. Folks compromised due to illness, or the drugs that may treat the illness are now an estimated 6.6 % of the population (especially the elderly), and rising, due to drugs killing something else. Call that something is going to get someone, and 93% don't need to wring a hand but would be very wise to wash....and r.i.n.s.e: )

SIGH, Anyone have stats on how many die, end up in urgent care with "food poisoning" given the attack a kitchen sink/wash rags are???? Oh ya IT ISN'T A THING.

I have a three hole sink. LOVE IT. Two full size bowls that are deep and large enough to easily soak and wash up my largest cooking sheets. The smaller one between is for a disposal. We put it in 27 years ago and have never looked back!

Multiple bowls are nice if the sink is large enough. But in my opinion, a 30" sink leaves the bowls too small once it's split up, especially with a tall divider. We have a 33" sink, and the house came to us with a 70/30 split tall divide. Having 2 bowls was nice at times, but was outweighed by even the larger bowl (which was 19x17 inside) not being big enough to fit a sheet pan or a large cutting board for washing. I swapped the sink out for a single bowl (31x18 inside) and now we can fit basically anything we have in the sink easily to wash. We rarely miss the double sink.

Now, if you had room for something like a 45" sink or a big sink with a small sink next to it, then I'd say absolutely go for the 2 bowl setup.

"s m, get your mind out of the gutter, please. "Garbage disposal cum drain" means "garbage disposal with drain"—cum being Latin for with."

sure sure sure. So Jan uses Latin now instead of just mistypes? Would be funny if the one word she insisted on using was cum instead of with.

My cabinets are in boxes in my livingroom so too late to change layout. Sink base will remain 33", with a 6 - 8" extension into the "blind" corner.

If I go 50/50, then both sinks are rather small, and would likely be equally used. I want the smaller sink on the left as it will be less used.

To reiterate, I did find what I'm looking for ( https://americanwholesaleoutlet.com/american-imaginations-ai-27513-ai-27514-30-in-w-csa-approved-chrome-kitchen-sink-with-stainless-steel-finish-and-18-gauge.html) but it is not in stock. I've ordered it, I have no ETA, and it is made in China. I'm concerned it could take months to receive, or that the manufacturer could just cancel my order.

What I found, where the order most likey could be filled, is: https://www.ruvati.com/wp-content/uploads/RVM5307.pdf but it is 31.5" and so inches pretty close to the side of the countertop cabinet, which makes me wince. ...unless I can utterly smoosh it next to the right side of the sink base cabinet. From other Houzz threads, I've learned of strapping the sink in, which allows the installer to wedge the sink very, very close to the sink base side. Note even if the sink is not centered in the base, the faucet will be.

Jennifer - thank you for the suggestions. I like them except I'm looking for the smaller of the two sinks to be on the left. This is because it will see less use compared to the biger sink on the right. And this in turn will mimize water splashing onto the counter-top cabinet in in the corner of the "L". See snipet from my design above.

Anybody have connections to a plumbing supply company that might have what I'm looking for? I've looked at a few non-U.S. companies as other countries have smaller kitchens, but the sinks I found were, ironically, too small.

Regarding cleanliness, this company makes sinks (higher end) with an eye toward cleanliness: https://www.creategoodsinks.com/. Seems higher end segment of the sink market does not believe in smaller sinks.

Like everything in life we should strive for a healthy balance. People die from malnutrition and obesity, but there is a healthy medium weight range that is ideal.

Living is squalid conditions can lead to infections and death. Living in too clean an environment leaves you vulnerable - your immune system isn't strong enough to battle infection or your immune system has become bored and starts creating things to react to - allergies, auto immune disorders.

A reasonably clean home is good enough and probably much healthier than either squalor or overly sanitized.

Did your mom wash dishes by hand and use a sponge or washcloth to do this task? Are you still alive. A whole bunch of people have survived and before we started over sanitizing everything we saw fewer allergies and auto immune disorders.

This divergence away from the OPs desire to find a sink into cleanliness/health is sort of ridiculous. I stated that I do not like to wash dishes in a sink that has a disposal for a drain and that is part of the reason why I prefer double sinks. Jan directed the discussion in a complete different direction and you guys ran with it. My disgust with disposals is not for fear of my health, they are just gross. Even the use of sponges doesn't really bother me but the current knowledge of germ growth has altered my use.. Using the excuse that it was what our mom's did so it cannot be that bad is very poor reasoning. Allergies and autoimmune disease increase is a very complex issue, and sanitization has saved people not killed, the knowledge of cleanliness is one of our biggest achivemments in keeping people alive. Over use of antibacterials is an issue but that is also not the same as not using sponges due to know bacterial growth.

I think your reasoning is sound. I'm a single-sink gal myself, but I don't have a garbage disposal, and anyway, different strokes, etc. I hope you can find what you're looking for.

Do you find the disposal worthwhile in other ways? Or would you consider removing it?

I'd ask the person who will install the sink if this will work:

https://www.kohler.com/en/products/kitchen-sinks/shop-kitchen-sinks?facets=Bowl_Splits%3ALarge+Bowl+on+Right

The plumber I've talked to has never strapped in a sink - just the usual clips-in-the-bottom-of-the-stone-countertop method. Seems there's a general resistance of deviating from this clip method. This plumber is open to doing the strap method e.g. Hercules Universal Sink Harness. Regarding the Kohler sink you suggest, that is the same length (31.5") as the Ruvati. If I HAVE to go to 31.5 - again, wince - I'd go with the Ruvati (https://www.ruvati.com/wp-content/uploads/RVM5307.pdf). Thanks, though. I feel like Don Quixote.

I found the sink at this website. https://kitchenoasis.com/products/american-imaginations-ai-27513-30-stainless-steel-rectangle-stainless-steel-modern-kitchen-sink? There's an 800 number you can call to verify whether or not it's in stock.

If you don't mind going no-name:

• 30 in. Double Bowl 60/40 Undermount Low Divide Kitchen Sink
• 30-in x 19-in Undermount Low Divide 16-Gauge Stainless Steel 60/40 Double Bowl Kitchen Sink
• Undermount 30-in x 19-in Stainless steel Double offset bowl 16 -Gauge Kitchen Sink

Katinparadise - That is what I ordered, is out of stock and have no ETA on, that I'm afraid could take months to arrive, if ever. It's made in China. Maybe it's just my kitchen remodel jitters - but without a sink, the countertop waits, the backsplash waits, my life waits. Nonetheless, I APPRECIATE your looking for a sink for me.

wdccrise - I need the smaller sink on the left. While I am right-handed, I now totally empathize with lefties!

I found one! It is SPENDY!! Franke is a Swiss company. I checked them out a few months ago but didn't see this sink then: https://www.franke.com/ca/en/home-solutions/products/kitchen-sinks/product-detail-page.html/122.0691.853.html

"LH" in the model name I take to mean "left handed" - puts the smaller sink on the left.

Found it at this Brooklyn, NY-based company: https://focalpointhardware.com. 

Ruvati has both the 60/40 and 40/60 in the Parmi 29"

https://www.fergusonhome.com/ruvati-rvm4505/s1437590?uid=3385603

Franke PKX160LH. No kitchen sink is worth nearly $3000.

Would this be a possibility?

Elkay ELUHAQD32179 Lustertone 32-1/16" Undermount Double Basin Stainless Steel Kitchen Sink | Ferguson Home

We had our last kitchen sink installed with the "straps". They'd never done it before, but it was no problem.

I have a 30” double 60-40 high-divide stainless sink, 25 years old. I can’t wash my glass refrigerator and freezer shelves in even the larger ”half” because it‘s too small to hold them. I take them to my large laundry sink, but that means scrubbing the laundry sink first. I guess this is a good reason to have a either a counter-depth fridge (smaller shelves), or a single-bowl sink, but the sink would cost less.

how often do you need to remove your refrigerator shelves - I have bins on most shelves to help keep everything organized - rarely have to remove a shelf to clean it.

@Jennifer Hogan: I only clean my refrigerator and freezer every four months because without a large single sink, it’s really something of an ordeal—especially because I worry that the glass shelves will break if I drop one or it slides out of my soapy hands. Three times a year I remove and wash the glass shelves in the laundry tub and wipe down the fridge walls and door with baking soda. I only mentioned it because no one else did in this thread, and the OP seems to consider tidiness and clean counters highly important.

I've washed fridge shelves in the tub. Convenient?No especially. But I don't have to do it that often.

M A:

A 33" sink undermounts into a 33" cabinet if it's strapped, not clipped or blocked, in place.

All, thank you so much. I've cancelled my "no ETA from China" sink order. I found the spendy Franke sink on eBay. At 30 & 7/8" (converting from metric) that should work. Even with 2 & 1/8" inches to spare, I think I'll still ask my plumber to strap it. that would make replacing it easier, should the need ever arise. Joseph, is it tricky to strap a two-bowl sink where the bowls are different sizes, including different depths?(https://www.franke.com/us/en/home-solutions/products/all-products/product-detail-page.html/122.0074.965.html)

I'll post photos after my kitchen remodel is done.

"Joseph, is it tricky to strap a two-bowl sink where the bowls are different sizes, including different depths?"

No.

Joining in from the Ontario side of things. We deal with some unique water chemistry in this region, especially on well systems, so I’ve seen this exact "horror movie" tank more than a few times.

Since you've already started the vinegar soak, you're on the right track, but I wanted to add a professional perspective on why this is happening and why those ants are so interested in your bathroom.

1. The "Green Gunk" is likely a well-water chemical reaction

Since your bowl is clear, but the tank is dark green, you aren't dealing with a health hazard, but rather stagnant oxidation.

Copper Oxidation: If your well water is even slightly acidic (common in many parts of Ontario), it can slowly leach copper from your pipes. That copper settles in the tank and turns a deep, dark green.

Biofilm: Since you have an iron filter, you might be dealing with iron-oxidizing bacteria. It’s harmless, but it creates a thick, dark slime that thrives in the still water of a tank.

Pro Tip: Stick with the Vinegar over bleach. Bleach is quite harsh on the rubber flapper and the gaskets between the tank and the bowl. In our cold climate, those rubber parts can get brittle, and bleach speeds up that process.

2. The Ants are the "Early Warning System"

Olychick and Elmer made great points, but as a plumber, I see the ants as a structural red flag. In Ontario, these "moisture ants" are almost always a sign of a failed wax ring or a seeping leak from that shower you mentioned behind the wall.

The Attraction: Ants aren't looking for the water in the tank; they are looking for the soft, damp wood of the subfloor. If your shower isn't waterproofed correctly, that moisture is likely traveling under the flooring.

The "Rock" Test: Give the toilet a gentle nudge with your knee. Does it move at all? If there’s even a millimeter of "wiggle," the wax seal is broken, and water is soaking the floor every time you flush, which is exactly what those ants are nesting in.

Advice:

The Terro traps are a great temporary fix for the swarm, but the real solution is keeping that subfloor dry. Once the ant chaos dies down, I'd highly recommend having someone pull that toilet to check the flange and the wood underneath. If you catch a soft floor early, it’s a quick fix; if you wait, the toilet might eventually start to sink.

Rosedale Plumbing--I think you posted to the wrong dilemma. This is about a kitchen sink, not a toilet.