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I am genuinely impressed with my April and Ashley Roses

Hi folks

You know that I'm willing to complain about roses and/or rose companies that are disappointing. You also know that I grow a TON of roses and keep ordering more! I'm well over 1200 roses by now even with the ones that died over the winter. I've been planting over 300 roses so far this spring with another 50 or so in rose ghetto getting ready for prime time. I ordered roses from about 20 sources, including local vendors, both bare root/grafted and own root.

Out of those roses, I have ordered 43 from April and Ashley. I know, I know, but they had some gorgeous hard to find roses and I was afraid they'd disappear like Ludwig roses did after 1-2 years. I was willing to take the gamble that these would be healthy and true to form roses. This year, April and Ashley has been the only bare root/grafted company that hasn't had a rose fail from canker or other health issues. I usually expect 10-20% failure from bare roots to canker or downy mildew or whatever the "black finger of death or BFD" is, and some companies are notably worse than others (as I've posted in the past). I have presumed that those of us in cold zones get greater BFD because of the longer time the rose is in storage, but there could be other factors.

By far the best in past years have been Palatine and Pickering for strong healthy bare roots that took off running as soon as planted. I've learned to pot up all my bare root roses and watch them carefully until robustly growing on all canes before planting and they have really appreciated it in my success rate improving.

This year all 43 April and Ashley roses burst into growth without the laggy weeks-delayed growth I can see from some other bare root companies. The growth and health and size of the bare roots has been equivalent to Palatine and for me that is a high complement. I potted up 23 of them that arrived at the latest bare root shipping date in mid-February (yep, February) being pretty sure I could tide them over outside in pots under heaps of leaves. All 23 are thriving, including a favorite below that is Velours de Nuits. Out of 100s of roses blooming my husband zeroed in on this one to ask its name and ooh in admiration. It's actually a darker velvet purple in person rather than the hot pink it appears here.





Another pleasant surprise has been the true to advertised color of the "Greyge" roses - that weird grey-beige coffee color that is so fleeting. Koko Loko shows it every now and then but so many others fade immediately to cream or turn orange or pink. I have loved the mustard to greyge colors of Golden Mustard, Cappuccino, and particularly Amnesia below. This was a recent purchase in the sale-priced potted roses and it's already planted, thriving and blooming in a true greyge color that just glows.




I didn't catch pictures of Navy or Notre Dame or Nadia Duran or several of the grey-lavender roses in bloom so far, but they have been stunning. My local rose society came out to view the bulbs in late April when the first shipment of A&A roses were in their pots in the pot ghetto. Most of them were blooming, but the one every single person oohed and aahed over was Notre Dame. It was an indescribably beautiful grey lavender rose that held onto its bloom for 10-12 days in tight form.

All in all, I'm happy to post this in genuine appreciation and have been meaning to do so for some time. The promised discount is way too tempting to pass up so I suspect my A&A tally will be increasing yet again this year.

Cynthia

Comments (17)

  • 2 months ago

    Wow, what a great report on these beauties!

  • 2 months ago
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    Nippstress, I’d love to know what varieties you purchased! So far, I am loving my A&A roses, too! Recently, I added 3 more roses (Maison Rouge, Cappuccino, and White O’Hara) using my coupons. The roses are very nice that it is hard not to order more! They are growing fast and healthy. I stand amazed looking at them. Unbelievable! Yes, Nippstress, you need to use your coupon…🤫

  • 2 months ago

    Nipptress,

    That's amazing 1200 roses. How do you care for so many? Love to know the names of your favorites? If convenient, I’d love to see more photos of them , too? In the future, if you have time?


    Velour de Nuit is beautiful, she’s on my order list along w/ Nore Dame. I just ordered Cappuccino. I am very excited to see them bloom! April & Ashley have the most amazing roses.

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    Nippstress, do you have any pictures of Notre Dame?

  • last month

    Very good to hear, Cynthia! I am curious how you would compare Velours de Nuit with Munstead Wood? I’m thinking of getting Velours de Nuit but hoping it would have a better base life than ME.

  • last month

    Cynthia - I know very well of the black finger of death. The worst for me are own root roses. All of my A&A roses are healthy and doing well. I'm very pleased with them, even though they are expensive since I have to convert Canadian $ to American$ and have to buy a phytosanitary certificate, plus shipping. But many roses here do worse and kick over and die, and then I'm throwing money away. :)

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    Cynthia,

    Thank you for sharing your glowing review of these A&A roses! The bare roots, do indeed, arrive with very tall roots and grow robustly! I just ordered Cappuccino & Velour de Nuit so I am happy to hear yours are beautuful and doing well! Notre Dame has been on my list all season, but SOLD OUT, so I will order her next season. Sooo happy to hear Notre Dame & Amnesia are stunning bloomers! I’m looking forward to the greyge & grey lavendar colors in these amazing roses!

  • 29 days ago

    Are their roses grafted on Dr. Huey rootstock or multiflora? Thank you.

  • 29 days ago
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    @strawchicago z5 As stated on the A&A FAQ page, "most" of their roses are grown on 'Dr. Huey' roots, because the vast majority of what they sell is produced by Francis Roses, the grower A&A acknowledges as their supplier. See: https://www.aprilandashley.com/pages/francis-roses


    Specific item pages for some varieties state that the "root stock" is derived from tissue culture (See: https://www.aprilandashley.com/products/pink-miracle) but that could be interpreted to mean that either the entire plant is grown from tissue culture (and is therefore "own-root") or they could be referring to the 'Dr. Huey' understock, and I can find quotes from Tyler Francis in which he states they also use tissue culture to generate their understock. What is interesting about that last part is that it suggests they are working with virus-indexed 'Dr. Huey' (Why would they bother to tissue culture RMV infected 'Dr. Huey'???), which is important information for consumers.

  • 29 days ago
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    @Paul Barden Dr. Huey-rootstock is a beast in my zone 5. I spent 1 1/2 hour removing a rose with its Dr.Huey-rootstock extending 4 feet away in all directions to steal water from my annual flowers. Lots of messy & tall Dr.Huey-rootstock take-over in my neighborhood, due to roses dying in my zone 5 winter.

    I cannot grow multiflora-rootstock due to the risk of RRD (rose rosette disease). Own-root is best since I can remove an own-root in 5 minutes, versus 1 1/2 hour digging up Dr.Huey rootstock.

    My sister near Fremont, CA killed a bunch of established roses since their Dr.Huey-rootstocks stole water from her newly planted fruit trees.

  • 29 days ago

    I like Dr Huey rootstock and have never had a single problem with it. Multiflora is just as good, giving no problems, either. I definitely prefer grafted roses. Anyway, I started zeroing in on the stunning Velours de Nuit yesterday, and quickly realized A&A was its only seller. I must have been the last one to find this out-ha.. But what a beauty Velours is, and Nippstress, your rose is gorgeous as all examples of this rose I've looked at in photos. I hope it continues to do well for you. Diane

  • 29 days ago
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    @strawchicago z5

    Some of the A&A roses are own-roots, grown at Eufloria Flowers for A&A, in pots only. . Most of the roses are grafted , grown at Francis Farms, sold bare root or later grafted in spring-potted. . You can click on the A&A website individual rose & it will say grafted or own root. I have had grafted here in freezing NY, but buried the graft so I had no problem with a few. I have an older Munstead W., grafted, from DA, and it has grown well for 5 years now. I did choose mainly own roots for this NY climate, though.

    Judi,

    Velour de Nuit is starting to bloom in my garden in last couple days. . I’ll see how long bloom lasts for vase life.

  • 28 days ago

    Wow, velours is stunning. I love dark roses and she looks amazing. How is her fragrance and vase life? Munstead is my favorite rose, but her thorns make her a pain to bring inside

  • 28 days ago
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    My new Velour de Nuit blooms…in last few August summer days…..

    (In actuality, darker wine than these camera photos)









    Must check fragrance?? Supposed to be a strong perfume!

  • 27 days ago

    I have this one! Can’t wait for her to bloom!! I’m wondering if they can take awhile for fragrance to develop as I have another one that is supposed to be very fragrant that I was not able to detect a scent on first blooms…

  • 27 days ago

    Kelly - yeah, that happens quite a bit for my roses. :)