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mdp_love84

Any person or publication recommending that people swap out harmless incandescent/halogen bulbs for highly toxic cfls is dangerously irresponsible and hypocritical. The mercury contained in these devices is extremely harmful to the environment and to the health of the communities in which their use has proliferated following the mass propaganda campaign put on by their manufacturers (general electric). How many people do you honesty think are disposing of these in the proper manner? The vast majority of them are thrown in the trash where they break and leak their mercury. LEDs are great. But if you don't use led, stick to good ol' halogen bulbs.


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Fiorella Design

No one should be using fluorescent anymore. LED or nothing. Incandescent are going to be eliminated completely soon enough. Time to get on board...

   
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Dave C

@ mdp_love84 - CFLs are not highly toxic. Any remotely modern bulb has only a tiny trace of mercury. Your exposure risk is actually less than that from eating a tuna fish sandwich.

Where do you think mercury came from if not the environment? Do you not even realize there are more toxic substances, in larger quantities in an LED bulb than a CFL?

It is amazing to me that someone can have good intentions yet totally misrepresent reality in a way that causes more harm than good.

Don't believe me though, consider what the Centers For Disease Control has to say after the US has been using tube fluorescents and CFLs for decades:

"1.3 How might I be exposed to mercury?

Because mercury occurs naturally in the
environment, everyone is exposed to very low levels of mercury
in air, water, and food. Between 10 and 20 nanograms
of mercury per cubic meter (ng/m3)
of air have been measured in urban outdoor air. These
levels are hundreds of times lower than levels still
considered to be "safe" to breathe. Background levels
in nonurban settings are even lower, generally about 6 ng/m3 or less. Mercury levels in surface water are generally
less than 5 parts of mercury per trillion parts of water (5
ppt, or 5 ng per liter of water), about a thousand times lower
than "safe" drinking water standards. Normal soil levels
range from 20 to 625 parts of mercury per billion parts of
soil (20�625 ppb; or 20,000�625,000 ng per kilogram of soil).
A part per billion is one thousand times bigger than a part
per trillion."


People, don't be ignorant. Fluorescent still make very good sense to use because two of the majority components are (silica) glass and aluminum, two of the most abundant materials on earth. CFL not as much as long tube fluorescent due to having an integrated shorter life ballast, but the knee jerk reaction against CFL is unwarranted. Plus, nobody really believes the nonsense claims about how long LED bulbs will last do they? We're now starting to get enough data in about longevity to see that LED is a a reasonable cost effective choice today, but that the modern all-integrated bulbs with a driver circuit in them, have the same problems as the CFL bulbs.

The right long term choice is EITHER long tube fluorescent OR LED, but neither in the traditional edison style screw in bulb format. Get rid of incandescent bulbs and it only makes sense to get rid of a socket that is inferior for every other form factor.

   
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