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19 years ago

Hello,

I have a 1/5th acre lot with a tiny house on it. I've been working at setting up various gardens on the lot. If you get down to the bottom of my post I have some questions, so please bear with me.

My property is a bit wider than deep, with the house very close to the road (on the north) and near the east side of the property. On the west from road to back I have a large vegetable garden of mounded beds with wood chip mulch pathways. On the fence line to the west of that I plan to put in a series of dwarf fruit trees, espaliered to fan shapes-not so tall they'll shade the garden.

Behind the house I have a 24 by 24 foot 'room' fenced with an apple espalier-the trees have been in the ground a year, and are taking off nicely.

I have a blue gramma grass lawn in the apple room and a small area beside it in the southeast corner of the lot.

To the east of the house is the only shady area-provided by a junky elm that is always dropping branches and sending up suckers-it's on the other side of the fence in a pasture that has recently been sold. I expect it will be developed and I hope they'll take out the tree and I can put in something better.

My current project is the front garden. It is an L shape on the north side of the house, but still gets plenty of sun. For the short leg of the L I want to put in a path across from the drive to the front door and a bed of water wise plants. The long part of the L I want as a courtyard, bordered by sky rocket junipers, with raised beds or pots for herbs in the center.

I really want to pave the courtyard with decomposed granite, but am having trouble finding any in my area. I don't know if shipping would be feasable or would cost too much.

I don't want gravel or woodchip which is too scrunchy underfoot for this area. And I think paving stones or brick would be too busy-but a possibility if all else fails, concrete is too impervious. I can't think of any other alternatives. I want something in buff to tawny shades, or terra cotta in color. Any suggestions?

I'm in zone 4 in northern Utah by the map, but I have a warmer microclimate and can grow zone 5 plants.

thanks,

Ellen

Comments (6)

  • 19 years ago

    Sounds like a nice yard.

    You say,
    "I really want to pave the courtyard with decomposed granite,"
    Then you say,
    "I don't want gravel or woodchip which is too scrunchy underfoot for this area"

    Decomposed granite acctually is gravel. Unless you are refering to some kind of exposed agrigate pathway that contains granite?

    I'm an old school lanscaper and we never used words like "decomposed rock" for what has alway been "gravel".
    To a gravel pit, gravel is either screened and washed or just screened. Unwashed gravel has "fines" in it which are the tiny particles of crushed rock and possibly tiny amounts of organic matterial.

    Gravel with fines in it makes a nice hard pack after watered and compressed. Gravel without fines in it is shifty any never really packs down hard but is great for drainage.

    All gravel pits have crushed gravel with fines and without. FInd a color you like and it's more or less the same thing as decomposed granite.

    There must be a town not too far away that sells crushed granite. Theres a lot of granite in Utah.

    I doubt it would be too insane to have some delivered depending on how far away it has to come.

    Have you been to all the rock and gravel places within 50 miles to see if they have something that will satisfy you?

  • 19 years ago

    This website has a pretty good description of the various types of stone products.

    I've never used DG, but I've read that it turns to mud in wet weather and will stick to your shoes and get tracked into the house. I have no direct experience that this is the case.

    Why do you feel brick or pavers would be too busy? After a while, they weather a bit, get mossy in spots, and you can plant thyme or other creepers in some of the joints, depending on how sunny the area is. Once they are in for a while, I think they blend in nicely, especially if you choose your material to harmonize with the house or other elements in the garden.

    Here is a link that might be useful: link

  • 19 years ago

    >Then you say,
    >"I don't want gravel or woodchip which is too scrunchy >underfoot for this area"

    >Decomposed granite acctually is gravel. Unless you are >refering to some kind of exposed agrigate pathway that >contains granite?

    The fellow I talked to that is familiar with the stuff says DC looks like broken windshield glass and that along with the fines cause it to lock together better than rubble gravel, plus I've seen organic binder advertised that can be used to strengthen the bonds. The gravel I see most often used around here is pea gravel which scatters everywhere, tufa which doesn't bind at all and the usual dirty white/grey driveway gravel, which supposedly would bind together, but doesn't in most cases I have seen and is the wrong color.

    Why no pavers?

    It doesn't fit the picture I have in my mind of what I want. It may be that I'll need to edit that picture and use pavers, but I want to try as much as possible to fit my vision before I have to resort to plan B.

    I hadn't heard about the wet/mud factor though, that will be something to ask about.

    I have found one place with what they described as crushed red granite-3 to 4 inch chunks of livid pink. Definitely not what I'm looking for.

    I need to make a trip out of the valley and look at other sources, it's just my busy season at work and in my vegetable garden and biking, so I don't have much time to get away, and with gas over $3/gal I'm trying by phone and internet to narrow the possiblities before I spend a day on the road.

    thanks for the information. It is helpful.

    Ellen

  • 19 years ago

    Contact Staker/Parsons about what you are seeking. They have landscape product centers in Salt Lake City and I believe down in Lehi. They would be the most likely source of the material you are seeking- of they'd at least know how to get it.

    Moss on pavers isn't a big issue in Utah as moss pretty much can't grow here- too dry. I understand that you aren't looking to do pavers though. It sounds like you know what you want. Good luck!

  • 19 years ago

    thanks Bindersbee, that is a good resource. I don't see DC there, but the fire rock chat is very close to what I want.

    There's an outlet in the next town, but the response to my question about the chat was "the WHAT?" I might be able to get it in Ogden, only 50 miles away, certainly in SL which is 80 miles.

    Beats my previous source, in Wisconsin by a long shot.

    Ellne

  • 19 years ago

    Crushed granite is also often sold as "stone dust". It's finer than gravel and most often used as a setting bed for dry-laid paving. It compacts well especially after contact with water.