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I hope you understand...

17 years ago

As of March 1st, 2009 any SASE that I fill will have to include a printout of that SASE address page at WinterSown.Org.

Too many people have taken advantage of my generosity and published the Six Pack SASE address on websites or shared it through list-serves; the Your Choice Tomato SASE list is also circulating through emails, which is a shame because the offenders don't update the list and I have to deal with lists that are several months old and many of the varieties long exhausted--I'm the one who has to make apologies and send substitutes.

The problem is that people are just raiding my non-profit for free seeds without bothering to discuss or share info about Winter Sowing, which is why I started the Seeds for SASE programs; originally I had to give people seeds to get them to try it. Though Winter Sowing is now widely accepted and recognized by the USDA as a method I still continue to share seeds.

The address pages at WinterSown.Org have a neat little calendar application that shows the current date. If the printout calendar date is more than a week older than the USPS cancellation date on the letter the SASE is mailed in then the SASE is invalid, or if no printout arrives the SASE is also invalid. The instructions are clearly stated on the website.

I hope you understand, but the hemorrhaging has to end. I will still continue to share seeds but now a visit to WinterSown.Org and the dated address printout are required.

I have cross-posted this in discussions and a few forums here and elswhere.

T

Comments (22)

  • 17 years ago

    Good people doing good things are most time the ones that are taken advantage of because of there kind and generous hearts.
    So sorry to hear this, hope you get it worked out. Good Luck.

  • 17 years ago

    If it rains here this summer and I am successful raising tomatoes from the seed you gave me, I will be giving tomatoes away. I certainly appreciate the seeds you sent and I can't help but think you are doing a lot of good even if some didn't get the winter sowing message. I'm sure it has been stressful for you to be bombarded by requests; it is a great offer. I don't think everyone will forget where they got the seeds.

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you both--I recieved a LOT of great, supportive emails. It's also spurred a few seed donations and that I am always grateful for too.

    Bless you all,

    Trudi

  • 17 years ago

    I am so sorry that people have taken advantage of your generosity....

    I sent in an envie to you last week and I am so grateful you want to share your seeds with me. Tomatoes grow so well where I live and I know I will have success with your new seeds.

    Thank you for what you do!

    If I need to send more stamps or anything please let me know. I sent my envie and forgot to included anything inside. I am one of those that makes your job harder :)

    Karen

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Trudi,
    This will be my first year winter sowing and you helped me so much to learn what,how and when to winter sow in my zone. You are such a benefit to gardeners and especially newbies!
    I'm sorry to hear that so many people have taken advantage of your generosity in such negative ways.
    I'm glad your taking action to stop it. The time and energy you have put in making apologies and substituting seeds must have been exasperating at times.
    I hope to have several varieties of seeds this Fall to donate to you Trudi. I sure appreciate you and I know many other gardeners do as well.

    Cindy : )

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Karen,

    Whenever a tomato sase arrives without a list I choose for you based on your state. I do always send a nice mix of colors and shapes so whatever you receive I think you will enjoy.

    Trudi

  • 17 years ago

    Trudi ~ I think your basis for this decision is totally valid! I for one, did think of you when I started WS'ing my tomatoes from you this week!! And I have been passing on the word of WS'ing, in fact I have a neighbor that's going to partake in your offer, I will clue them in on the new(er) directions to follow. Everyone looks at me like I'm soooo nuts when I start explaining WS'ing... *chuckling. I love their amazed faces when they see it actually working!! :)

    ~Wendy

  • 17 years ago

    HI! Trudi, my friend gave me your info a month or so ago and I sent in an envy with all the postage. It was the first time I had ever tried winter sowing and now I am hooked. I completly understand your predicerment as I will confess I had never heard of winter sowing until I sent in for seed from you. *hang head in sheepish shame*. I am planning on sending a donation once my plants grow (I try to donate to any project I have received seed for free from) and I have passed on any seed that you sent me that I could not use to those who needed it. Thank you so much for your valuable assistance and for giving me a new hobby in winter. It felt so good to "play" in dirt and plant seed in the middle of an ice storm!

    Mouse

  • 17 years ago

    Hey, Trudi!!!!!!

  • 17 years ago

    What a shame it came to this, but I've belonged to freebie sites and it usually winds up this way...

    On the bright side, I wound up browsing the seed island at Home Depot today (hoping against the odds that I'd find what I know isn't there, lol), and an another girl browsing there asked if I'd ever grown anything from seed before... we talked a little about wintersowing, and I told her that all I know about growing stuff from seed I learned from wintersown and gardenweb, and that she should definitely look both sites up when she gets home... she sounded really excited and said she would.

    I love sharing the addiction. ;]

    Thank you for getting me hooked, Trudi. :D

  • 17 years ago

    Hey Kay!

    Kay, I think you're one of the very first people who sent me seeds for SASE...lady you changed my life ;-)

    Mouse,

    Someone named Mouse left a really nice comment in the WinterSown.Org guestbook--I assume that was you. Thank you for your great feedback! I always send a info brochure with the seeds--it helps people understand either what WSing is, or if it's the tomato SASE they learn how to safely save their tomato seeds in a manner to reduce disease transmission from exterior, seed-borne pathogens.

    There is a dialgue about this going on over at WS Forum, I'll paste in the link.

    Here is a link that might be useful: 'I hope you understand' at WS Forum

  • 17 years ago

    Trudi, I would also like to say thank you for the seeds and the info. on wintersown.org I will also send seeds this fall when the tomatoes start producing believe it or not they are up about 3 inches and doing good. I for one knows this works and it's a first for me. A friend brought me some tomatoes this fall that she really liked and we did the seed saving according to your info. and they are one of the ones coming up now. So again thank you.

  • 17 years ago

    I'm glad to hear you used the tomato seed saving info...it really works like a charm. You're over and done in thirty five minutes and you get a half hour break in there too!

  • 17 years ago

    thanks Trudi!! I am sure anything you send me will be great!!

    I will be sure to try to save some seeds. I have some that self seed and they are everywhere....

    Karen

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Trudi,
    I understand and agree that you are doing the right thing. As a long time member of the seed exchange and a tomato grower who has gotten seed from you in the past I agree that it is the right move. However, I had just mailed an envelope to you then came home to read your lastest post. I do hope that you make me an exception and will grant my request. I had posted about one week to 10 days ago on seed exchange that rodents ate all my tomato and squash seed collections. I finally got my request together and mailed it but it does not include the requested SASE page you are now asking for. I am trying to replace eaten seeds that I grow each year, plus add some that I had received from an earlier request to winter sow that also were eaten by that pesky rodent(s). Imagine finding your entire seed collection in shreds of paper, plastic, and foil!
    I salute your great success with winter sow and hope that my seed request gets to you by the cut off date. Otherwise please honor it--I live in California and am uncertain of the mail time involved. Winter sow is a great service to all!
    Sincerely,
    Sonbie

  • 17 years ago

    I found the wintersown site from a post on another site. I sent in for the tomatoes... and that led me here. Now I have so many seeds I'll never be able to plant them all. Thanks so much Trudi, for making a seed addict of me. LOL.

    Angela

  • 17 years ago

    Hi Sonbie,

    Don't worry, you're well ahead of the postage cancellation date. The "new rules" go into effect on the 1st.

    Hi Angela,

    Cool! Tomatos rock.

  • 17 years ago

    Trudi won't ask for seeds here, so I'm going to speak up on her behalf. If you have extras that need good homes, donations are very welcome. Wintersown.org is a not for profit that encourages people to try winter sowing by providing seeds. Trudi is also very hesitant to say that donations should come to her any particular way. So we pulled her preferences out of her at the Winter Sowing forum.

    Instead of paraphrasing for her, I've provided a second link to the thread at the WS forum. Please take a look at the two lines in paragraph 6 of her post time stamped 21:05.

    Here is a link that might be useful: WS thread

  • 17 years ago

    Bless you seedmama, you warm my heart.

    SeedMama's seeds are currently a part of all the Six Packs that are currently going out in the mail; she's a very generous lady--generous with her seeds and generous with her time. It does take time to save seeds and pack them, and it takes a warm and special heart to give away to strangers what you have created with your own hands.

    Thank you.

  • 17 years ago

    Trudi: Just want to thank you again for the tomato seeds and also to advise I will again be sending my extra seeds within two weeks time along with a check to defray some of your expenses. I appreciate you and all that you do!!

    Ginny B.

  • 17 years ago

    Thank you Ginny very much.

  • 17 years ago

    Trudi,
    Thank you so much for your hard work and your compassion. I look fowarded to receving your seeds. Again thank you. Denita

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