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So,using leftover paints...NOT!!!

20 years ago

So,I had this situation where I decided to use some latex paint as an additive,along with admix,to finish a ball.Won't do that again!

I applied it yesterday afternoon,going for a nice light violet colour,to contrast the gold foundation colour that was integral.As of a few minutes ago,it hasn't come close to the fast cure that I want.With Mymud,I get a fast set.

I probably used too much paint,so,maybe I'll try again.Maybe.I'm going to speak to my Benny Moore store rep and see if they'll just give me the tint without the latex.Anyone tried that?Did it work?Why am I talking in questions?Why can't I stop???

Cheers from here?

Comments (9)

  • 20 years ago

    Oh, pooh! I think I read somewhere that if you take in a small container (baby food jar, pill bottle) most paint stores will sell you the pigment in small quantities. It would be worth a try anyhow.

  • 20 years ago

    Rick,
    I am unclear why you were using the latex paint, as a strenghtening additive, or wanting to get a color?
    And if you only go for the universal tint of a color there is nothing to stabilize the color and will be forever coming off on the hands of who ever is touching the object. However if you are mixing the universal tint with the bonding/fortifier you may be able to stabilize the color. If you are using it with grey cement, it will dillute the color, if it stabilizes.
    The other information to note is that if you are looking for the deepest of the color when you ask at your local box store or Paint center ask for the color with the white tint not included, because either grey or white cement will act as that tint.
    Some paint tints can not be dispensed in any less than the amount it takes to tint a gallon. My experience is that all of the tint will fit into a little bigger than a babyfood jar. Take jars with tight lids. Tape the color tag onto the jar for later identification, cuz the tint mix does not always reflect that tag choice. I have use color tint adding it to the admix (whether milestone admix, or common) with as little as a toothpick droplet. Mix that first then add to your dry mix.
    Dena

  • 20 years ago

    This is an interesting thread. I have used paint in my mixes, but mostly just to give some color . I didn't know you could get the paint stores to sell you just the tint. Interesting.I also thought the paint added some strength to my mix vs plain water. I haven't noticed any difference in set time, or noticeably in strength either.
    Rick, is your mix still soft? With the heat we have been having I would have thought it would harden pretty quick. Did you get the email I sent you?
    Dena do you have some pics on your web page that shows examples of using the tints on any projects?
    I find this intriguing.
    Cindy

  • 20 years ago

    I probably just got lucky but.... the Sherwin Williams Paint store guy told me they have to "bleed" the plunger/tube things that put the tint in the paint cans every day or two. I came at closing time and he gave me an ounce each of the colors I wanted - for free.
    I used them to make color washes to tint concrete leaves and I loved them. I never had a problem with the color rubbing off but I sealed the leaves so maybe that helped. I never mixed the tint into the wet concrete. Tell us more if you try, Rick.

    Laura
    ps Rick, you can't help asking questions. You just have a questioning nature.. (it's a good thing)

  • 20 years ago

    Cindy,
    The first times I used the tints were in conjuntion with the short and tall vessel and the milestone veneer. Pics of those are in the second album (behind the fence). The last time I used the color was with the cone torch, and there were probably 4 different colors used. Mixed a smooth batch of milestone admix with color and white cement and smooshed it on over cured grey. The base I used bonding fortifier, tint and a little white cement and brushed it on. The base was a sand cast piece that I did not want to loose the ridges on, so the veneer is quite thin. On the cone I wanted to lessen the girdle from my casting error so it is smooshed on to about a 1/8" thickness.
    Dena

    Here is a link that might be useful: cone torch color

  • 20 years ago

    A little further along...
    I stopped by my Benny Moore store yesterday and spoke to the owner about tints.He said he sells tints to stuccoers to add to their mixes.As some of you have already used tints,this is old news.But,I have to always ask!
    BTW,he says using tints is an exercise in self restraint.the stuff is messy if spilled and seems to get on everything-hammers,clothes,your lunch...
    Cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    Rick - when I got the free one ounce "portions" of universal tints from Sherwin Williams paint store they lasted me for months. I was mostly using them to make water-based washes for painting concrete leaves - I never tried tinting the wet concrete with them.
    When I asked what it would cost to buy these tints they said they come in pints and they seemed to list from 15$ to 25$ a PINT depending on the color. Did you get any prices from Benjamin Moore? Did they sound better than what I just mentioned??
    Laura

  • 20 years ago

    Laura-He said a buck per ounce,would also mix any colour we wanted.Because we're using white cement,white sand and almost white metakaolin,with white admix,putting colours in the mix would look pretty good.Variations might be silica fume/grey cement.I'll be trying in a week or so,and am looking forward to it!
    Cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    I have gleaned much from this thread, so where does one purchase "white cement,white sand and almost white metakaolin,with white admix, silica fume/grey cement".?
    I have done hypertufa, had good results, but, I recognize I am really an amatuer, much more than previously thought of :)

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