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Quickwall in Canada?YES!

20 years ago

For those of you here in the GWN,I contacted the Quickwall people in Ontario,regarding supply here in BC.Apparently,Home Hardware either has it or could special order it for customers.

I'll be checking the 2 stores here on the Sunshine Coast shortly.Good luck and let me know if you get results from your local HH.

cheers from here

Comments (20)

  • 20 years ago

    Good luck.
    I have tried every supplier I know including Home Hardware and I cannot get QuikWall.

  • 20 years ago

    I e-mailed Debra Good,the Cdn rep.Did you try to order it?More common back East with stucco siding.As i said,I'll take comments from one and all,then speak to the rep.i'm going into Vancouver tomorrow to see people at a masonry store;they may have a Cdn equivalent.
    cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    I spent hours talking to various companies and the closest thing to an equivilent I could find is GreatWall but it only comes in grey. But it is only designed as a scratch coat not a top coat.
    But it is good stuff, very strong.
    I'm actually going to do a ball with it as soon as I get my aunts troughs done.

  • 20 years ago

    LOL
    Talked to a couple more Canadian companies who manufacture redimix products and boy do they have a low opinion of Quikrete and some of their products.
    This is a very competitive industry but it operates in a fashion where in some areas they have virtual monopolies.
    They don't like to see other products on their 'turf'.

  • 20 years ago

    Again,quikcrete is available from Home Hardware,via special order from the distribution centre in Alberta.I'm going to try Home Building products(same signage,different owners near us)as well.Got some Greatwall from Pac West,after discussion,about 20 bucks for 80 lbs.Needs sand(ratio about 1:2)and water only.Tried it with some leaves,will check on them tomorrow.As to "bad mouthing"products.I learned a valuable lesson in sales a long time ago:Don't downsell the opposition,upsell yourself.Those that have suggested that Quikrete isn't as good as theirs must need to do so because it IS good.Plus,we have others on this forum who like it.Plus,and this is the best of all,those in the masonry industry,probably without exception,haven't got a bloody clue as to what we do as crafters!
    Cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    FYI -- I too called the Quikcrete people (in Seattle) and found the nearest store (Lowes in Coeur d'Alene ID) that could special order it for me. I went that route and then arranged for someone to pick it up for me. Have just started using it so don't have an opinion on it yet but it looks good.

  • 20 years ago

    Rick said.
    Again,quikcrete is available from Home Hardware,via special order from the distribution centre in Alberta.

    LOL!
    I was just told by Home Hardware that it was not available from the distribution site in Alberta, only their Ontario distribution center therefore not available in BC at all.
    If you manage to get soom Rick let us know. I give up!

  • 20 years ago

    I'm just repeating what the rep from Quikrete stated to me this morning.As I'm going East for a few days,I'll be checking there.But,if Greatwall is esentially the same,and it's produced in Surrey,BC,then I won't worry about it.
    I may call the rep while I'm there and clear up the confusion about Quikrete.
    Cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    Hi Rick
    Just a comment on Greatwall.
    I was told the reason it is a scratch coat product is because there is no way to make a fiber re enforced stucco genuinely water proof. I guess the folks in Vancouver would know that. Look at the rotting condo mess they have due to bad stucco, it's financially ruined lives and cost millions. This may be one of the reasons QuiKWall is not sold here.
    But for us hobby folks it really doesn't matter if Quikwall is 100% waterproof or not.

  • 20 years ago

    The problem with leaky condos was mostly the changing of the building code and bad design (?). There are many older condos with stucco and no problems at all. This was my understanding, but it is a very complex issue.

  • 20 years ago

    Hi Kobold
    I actually bought a stucco condo a few years ago that was built on a California design. It had so much floor space exposed to our Z3 weather the cost to heat it was huge. Everyone of us sold out and the condo block is now a rental slum.
    They were probably terrific in California but not in the wilds of BC.

  • 20 years ago

    I had a condo in Richmond that developed leaks because the city of Richmond approved a change in the plans,allowing the developer to NOT put in certain support posts.The leaks led to me walking from mine.The city maintains that they did no wrong.To that,we all said"B......t!"And here,like many others in the area,it wasn't the stucco,but other problems.The primary problem that created the mess was a problem of vapour barriers that the various munis approved.Again,they aren't accepting fault for their engineers bungling.Classic political buckpassing!
    I now yield my soapbox.
    BTW,reading the instructions on Greatwall,there's nothing about waterproofing.I'd add Xypex to anything that calls for waterproofing,along with an appropriate finish.
    Cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    Quickwall ??? We have DURABOND for gypsum, is that the same thing?

  • 20 years ago

    "Is it hard yet?"is an expression I'd not heard yet,until today.Tried the Greatwall,using their mix ratios and its still not set 24 hr later.I used what I refer to as medium silica(believe its reference is "70"and that may be the mesh size)and it seems a coarse finish.I'll leave it for another 24 hrs,and I'll also try silica flour(200 mesh)for a finer feel,perhaps a better set,using less water.A comment that the Greatwall has a lot of fibres in the dry mix.
    Cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    Greatwall is definitely retarded, add Portland to speed things up a bit.
    Be careful it doesn't seem to like concrete glue or acrylic admix.
    Latex paint seems to be OK.

  • 20 years ago

    The bag says"add ONLY water"so no admix.I'd guess already in the mix.
    Cheers from here

  • 20 years ago

    Rick if we followed instructions on the bags there would be no concrete or Hypertufa artform at all.
    You have to fly by the seat of your pants in this hobby.
    Live dangerously, never look behind you, and bury your mistakes deep in the woods never to be spoken of again.:)

  • 20 years ago

    Just tried Greatwall with silica flour(200 mesh)and a huge difference in texture,very similar to modeling clay.Same kind of feel and density.Since I'm using this(initially)for leaf molds,This strikes me as the way to go.I'll report back tomorrow afternoon on the results.
    cheers from here.

  • 20 years ago

    GreatWall
    Should add this is probably for Canadians only.
    I think Imasco only has on dealer in the US near Denver.

  • 20 years ago

    OK,here's my submission for the morning:
    Don't use Greatwall for leaves.It's a mix that requires support thru mesh or lath to be effective.I was trying bigleaf maples,the largest mold about 10 inches across,going for a depth of 1/4 of an inch,no more.Of the six molds and 12 pieces that I cast only 5 made it out of the mold.The rest snapped too easily.I going to try it with admix to see if this will add to the hardness,and faster set(with my own formulation,they were hard and ready to be removed the next day,plus they had the sound-flick it with a fingernail and you get a ceramic type of sound.You know what I mean if you're doing thin work)so I'll report in a week or so about this stuff and my variations.
    Cheers from here

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