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Semi-Dwarf Blackberry

19 years ago

Disclaimer: I know that some of you will advise me that my Home Depot purchase was not a good idea. most of my fruit trees come fron nurseries, but I just had my curiousity tickled with a tag on a thornless blackberry plan. It claims that it is a Semi-Dwarf. There is not any information on the tag that gives a wholesaler or a scientific name. It just says "Rubus" on the tag. The tag reads:

Grab a hand full of "Fruitfulls"

Semi-Dwarf Blackberry

Rubus

On the back of the tag it reads:

Semi Dwarf Blackberry:Large glossy sweet fruits on compact plants. Ideal for the backyard grower.

"Added value: Certified virus free and gaurenteed to be healthier than the average fruit tree. This tree will grow faster, produce larger yields of superior fruit and live longer than other fruit trees.

Self Pollinating

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And I thought that I was in love with the Boysenberry. I will keep you posted....haha

Has anyone else come across this marketing miracle?

Comments (5)

  • 19 years ago

    I hope that plant grows and produces a bounty of easily maintained, harvested, and eaten berries that you enjoy for years to come.

    I haven't come accross that one before but I'll have to take a look next time I'm at Home Depot.

    The descriptions sounds pretty funny, like something that TyTy nursery would sell.

    Blackberries don't grow on trees. The "semi-dwarf" designation is vague and misleading enough when used to describe fruit trees, but isn't normally used for cane fruits at all.

    The fact that they call it "tree" and "semi-dwarf" make all of the other claims less than credible. I wouldn't buy berries from them without at least the variety name.

    Later, when you want to add another variety to extend your season, or for a change of flavor or whatever other reason you won't know what you have.

    If I were to stretch my imagination and assume that the use of "semi-dwarf" was intentional, then I guess they mean that this is an erect cultivar that isn't very vigorous (oops, I just reread to say it will "grow faster" so I can't even guess what they mean)

    All blackberries are of the genus rubus, as are rasberries and other aggregate berries, so that doesn't tell you anything other than the fact that at least whoever made the label knows that blackberries fall in that genus.

    If you like surprises, have a lot of space for it where you have the flexibility of adding a trellis or other support you might need once you learn its growth habit, and you aren't particular about fruit qualities such as when they ripen, size, firmness, flavor etc, then I'd say you'll be in good shape however it turns out.

    If you have some contraints in one of those areas then perhaps you are taking your chances, but it could be exciting to see how it turns out.

    Let us know.

    P.S.
    This reminds me that at our Home Depot the picture on the packaging doesn't even always match the type of fruit. I recall on a black raspberry them having a picture of blackberries. I wouldn't buy them unless I was in the "grab bag"/"surprise me" state of mind.

  • 19 years ago

    Well after 2 phone calls here is the somewhat cloudy but better than nothing information. The plant is sold to Home Depot by the Nakase Bothers Wholesale Nursery. The Sku # of the product is 963-602. There are three possible varieties of thornless blackberry that could be in my pot.

    It could be the "Triple Crown", Thornless Apache, or "Crown Marion" Apparently they market this product under an assortment sku, which means you don't know what you are really getting.

  • 19 years ago

    Well Triple Crown and Apache have very different growth habits from one another. The "semi-dwarf" label was either a mistake or a lie.

    Apache is an erect grower. It can pretty much support itself and is the closest to looking like a tree. The first season mine needed support but the second season the main canes are over 2" thick and free standing. I have my blackberries against a chainlink fence but Apache doesn't seem to need it.

    The Triple Crown will be extremely vigorous. The canes will arch over and back to the ground if not supported. Actually, they will arch back to the ground even if they are supported. The will easily grow 20' or longer.

    I've never heard of "Crown Marion" and I don't see any ready hits on Google.

  • 19 years ago

    I probably have the names mixed up. I was on a cell phone and it faded. Could it have been just "Marion"?

  • 17 years ago

    I know that this is an old post, but i just bought six "thornless black berries from home depot today as well. upon getting them home and examining them I found that they are not in fact thornless except one and the rest are thorny. Now, that doesn't bother me as much as if they are trailing and thorny. I do not have the space in my garden for a messy trailing blackberry row. I wanted erect cane and on the tag it says, in the same vague way dbarnett13 described, that it is shrubby. I looked and compared with some others and they said they were trailing so, if the tags are right then it will be ok, but i know how hit and miss the tagging is at big box stores.
    I wouldn't have even bothered except that Henry "good for nothing" Fields nurseries skrewed me out of my erect chickasaw blackberry order this year because of a lack of inventory.

    do you think that they are true to tag? they are not thornless as the tag says. do you think that i should return them and make sure they are not trailing? help! i know nothing about berries!