rdtompki

New Style Gas Cans!

rdtompki
14 years ago

I've got three relatively new plastic gas cans that I use for my riding mower and lawn mower as well as two "cans" that provide diesel for my tractor. The gas cans are Blitz with the new style nozzle that is supposed to prevent spills. These things are brutal and invariable lead to a mess.

Can anyone recommend a brand of gas can that has an improved design? I really miss the simple spout style and never spilled gas prior to this improved technology.

I should mention that I can use a small "can" for the lawn mower, but need 5-7 gallons for garden tractor (gas) and tractor (diesel).

Our government at work. You can never have too much regulation.

Rick

Comments (63)

  • ntillm01
    14 years ago

    "Unfortunately, couldn't find any of the old style cans at West"
    I was afraid that might be the case. The Feds come up with a safety idea and suddenly everything gets it and the old stock is pulled from the shelves.

    It has been a few years (2-3) since I bought mine from West Marine so I thought they might still have the old style. Sorry about that!

  • youth4him
    14 years ago

    One note on the non-vented new cans, you cannot store the spout in the can if it's more than about 1/2 full as the pressure will cause it to release gas all over the place, learned this the hard way.

    You can improve the new cans with a drill and a cork of some sort, pick the size of the hole and the corking device, and you now have an old style can.

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    You guys would love my grandfather's gas cans...now my father uses. He used large glass gallon plus sized wine jugs with metal screw on caps. They must be 50 years old now. Extra thick glass. I loved them, I recall when I was young he would say...use the black colored gas for the LB. Those things were heavy as a kid.

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    Zoomie said:
    * Posted by zoomie (My Page) on
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    Though I was the only individual that was getting ticked at these cans! What a joke. I can make a mint by drilling a small hole towards the back of the can and installing a small vent. Similar to the connections you need on some of the weedeater fuel tanks. Again a waste of cash!!!!

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  • sabreriffic
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  • cranheim
    12 years ago

    After spilling gasoline all over me, the power equipment, and my garage floor with my Blitz "Spill Proof" spouts, I tried a "No-Spill" brand can I purchased from a Honda dealer. It has a lifetime warranty. So far it works great. I just put the spout in the fuel tank and press the button on the back of the spout and it delivers the fuel quickly. The can and spout are all plastic, but the spout is much different than the ones used by Blitz. Charles Ranheim

  • dynasoar
    12 years ago

    I am a landscape contractor in the mid-atlantic area and did not relish the idea of replacing all of our old rubbermaid/ Briggs cans (about 20+)just because the spouts are not made anymore

    In the past I bought replacement packs of Wedco T235c "replacement spouts" for the old Rubbermaid/Gott/ Briggs gas cans. When I recently went to reorder they said they were discontinued.

    But...

    What you need to do is buy a Wedco replacement gas can spout (Mfg# model T201). They are always on sale at e-bay for about $4 each.

    Once you get the parts all you need to do is cut about 1/8" off the inside opening of the old rubbermaid black plastic threaded ring (be careful as this is pretty dangerous). Once you do this you are good to go!

    Ps. the new spouts seem to fit perfectly,hold up well and don't leak.

    Good luck

  • cranheim
    12 years ago

    I was sent one of the new Enviro-Flo spouts for my Blitz gas can. It has a handle to press to start the fuel flow. However, there is a child proof safety feature build into this handle. It is like a slide switch you slide back until it locks in place. This unlocks the handle. Here is the problem I fould with mine: After unlocking the handle by sliding the side switch to the rear until it locks in place, it snaps back to the lock position before pressing the handle far enough to start the fuel flow. It is supposed to allowing starting the fuel flow, then reset itself to the lock position, so when you release the handle, it will again be in the locked position. I think this locking safety feature is poorly designed, making it difficult to use. I found it was necessary to slide the unlock switch to the rear, and hold it there with one hand while pressing the lever down to start the fuel flow with the other hand. This has to be done while supporting the weight of the can, holding the spout in the small fuel tank opening, and watching it fill. You cannot simply start and stop the flow as the tank fills, because the handle keeps relocking. I suppose it is possible I just have a defective spout, but it looks like a weak design problem to me. I wrote to Blitz about it, and they responded by saying it had been tested and approved for safety, but are still interested in hearing about any problems that show up in the field. This new locking feature caused me to spill fuel trying to operate it while filling the fuel tank. If anyone out there has tried one of these new spouts, please post your findings about it. I, along with Blitz, would be very interested in your findings. Blitz has had a good reputation for many years. It would be a big problem for them if they had many returned as having a safety defect. Charles Ranheim

  • rdtompki
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    As the originator of this thread I'm not surprised by its longevity. I've also gotten a sample new style Blitz can and, while not perfect, it's a big improvement for filling small gas-powered devices such as weed whackers and lawn mowers (from a small can). The flow rate is just about right and I now longer spill gas. I'm very interested in Blitz's solution for their larger, 5 gallon cans. I can't see this new design having any merit for a large can that might be used to fill a tractor or riding lawn mower: flow rate is too slow and holding down the spout lever would be difficult if not impossible while hefting 30-40 lbs. Meanwhile, I'm going to peruse this thread and see if there are any solutions for the five 5-gallon cans I've already got.

  • jammer1
    11 years ago

    I like the older EAGLE cans made of steel;All the plastic containers I ever bought,let me down by leaking,or the nozzle breaks,just when you're ready to pour,and similar mishaps.......

  • erstanfo
    11 years ago

    Blitz - Enviro-Flow
    I had the same problem with the child proof feature as Cranheim. I took it back to Wally World as defective. Shucks/Kragen/Autozone have old style. Lowes on west coast also have old style.

  • erstanfo
    11 years ago

    Blitz - Enviro-Flow
    I had the same problem with the child proof feature as Cranheim. I took it back to Wally World as defective. Shucks/Kragen/Autozone have old style. Lowes on west coast also have old style.

  • electman
    11 years ago

    old gas cans leak what do new ones do?

  • htspecialist
    11 years ago

    Thanks for the tip Dynasoar. I bought the Wedco T201 over the internet (2 for $7.95 + shipping). The new spout works great on a Gott 5 gallon container after the 1/8" trim to the original cap. No leaking gasoline and the old can stays out of the land fill a little bit longer.

    -----------------------------
    What you need to do is buy a Wedco replacement gas can spout (Mfg# model T201). They are always on sale at e-bay for about $4 each.

    Once you get the parts all you need to do is cut about 1/8" off the inside opening of the old rubbermaid black plastic threaded ring (be careful as this is pretty dangerous). Once you do this you are good to go!

    Ps. the new spouts seem to fit perfectly,hold up well and don't leak.

  • aercooled_gmail_com
    9 years ago

    Yes, they are terrible. I purchased the kind with a spring-loaded sleeve on the filling spout. You have to grip and pull back hard while trying to fill a chain saw, lawn mower, pressure cleaner, etc. This tends to loosen the spout and gas spills all over your hands, your equipment and into the environment. Possible solutions: 1) Buy a funnel for 99 cents, remove the spout and pour directly from the can. (2) Use a hack saw to cut the white plastic end that seals the filling spout. Remove the spring. Attach a short length of tubing to the remaining spout or use spout as is.

  • Greensideup77
    9 years ago

    They are not cheap but look at the JustRite Metal Safety Gas Cans at www.northerntool.com

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    9 years ago

    I have noticed that those infernal new style gas cans are not sold in my favorite places that used to have them.
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  • mmk8283
    9 years ago

    I designed a retrofit for the "Blitz" cans that converts them over to a flexible 1/2 fuel line for a spout. can be as long or short as you wish.

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    I stopped at the gas staion to fill them up, first the 5g sucker. I added my stabil to the 5g can then oil/stabil to the to the 1g can. I then proceeded to fill the 5 gallon container. I next decided to see how these babies worked so I put the nozzle back on the 5g can and removed the nozzle from the 1g. I proceeded to fill the 1g from the 5g. As soon as I slid the button and pressed the trigger gas burst out everywhere! I then realize this stubby dam little nozzle needed to be well with in the 1g container. That manuever was awkward as hell to pull off and more gas was split. At $4 a gallon I was getting pretty upset. I was waiting for the attendant to comeand yell as well. I realized this situation would only be more cumbersome trying to fill my weedwacker or blower with this darm stubby nozzle....plus I realized there would be no chance of my teenager doing it without loosing a quart of gas everytime.

    I was about to head to Lowes to look for some tubing to extend the nozzle when I figured I'd try to return these suckers to Walmart. To my surpise they would accept them.

    Lowes sold the same crap so I ran down to HD. Their design was a bit better so I emptied the gas from the Walmart cans to the HD cans (more spilt gas) and headed back to Walmart for my return.

    Walmart did refund my money. On the way out what do I see....a special Blitz accessory for gas cans....an extension tube for their stubby cans!

    I can just hear pop up their laughing at me. I probably splilled more gas with those damn techno cans that day than he splilled in his entire life with his paint thinner container and funnel!

  • quintus
    9 years ago

    What you guys are missing is this: The new cans are designed NOT TO vent for two reasons.

    1. pollution
    2. The volatility of the NEW gas with 10% alcohol is such
    that the lighter constituents vent off very quickly
    causing the gas to go bad within days. By having
    non-venting cans those lighter compounds are not
    allowed to escape, thus preserving the fuel.
    I know they are a pain, but there is some logic behind their design.

    Quintus

  • chunker99
    9 years ago

    I think what Quintus is missing is when you actually use one of these "cans" they leak all over making the pollution arguement moot. Logic? Sure. Just like the vapor recovery systems at the gas station. Designed to take the vapors back to the refinery. Right. Thanks US Government for looking out for us.

  • rosemallow
    9 years ago

    Has anyone tried the NO Spill???

  • zoulas
    8 years ago

    No Spill is the best. They actually sell spare parts for their systems, It really is no spill. Worth the $$

  • phil2448
    5 years ago
    last modified: 5 years ago

    Turning the ventless cans into vented cans with a tire valve stem works pretty well for me. You take the core out of it and you have a screw on cap for the stem.

  • harry_wild
    5 years ago

    Totally agree! These new polycarbonate gas containers are totally for the birds when you try to fill up you lawn mover. It just spills the gasoline all over lawn mover and some drips down to the ground.