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some more advise needed please.

17 years ago

Hi all

I posted a question about my NOID orchid a week or so ago. And just as I expected there is a lot of conflicting opinions on which type of orchid it is. Someone would name it for me, then someone else would call it another name, well I thought they were anyway, maybe they were referring to a species of the name or something. . .

Anyway, I think I have a Oncidium Baellara, that was the common consensus anyway. After getting the name and requirements down for this one, I moved it to a west facing window,I put it right in the window sill. It sets ontop of a dish, pebbles and water. My question is. . . The puffy bulb like things (are they psuedobulbs) are becoming wrinkled, which from what I have learned is due to lack of moisture. I have also noticed some tiny brown flecks on the mature leaves as well. Is this common when they get more light? If not what am I doing wrong or not at all that I should be doing.

Thanks to any and all. . . .

Comments (11)

  • 17 years ago

    May we get a picture, please? Some Oncidiums get brown spots that are natural and okay.

    Other than the West window have you changed anything else lately?

  • 17 years ago

    Hi, and thank you. Heres a few pics of my orchid. I was looking at the ones I took for iding purposes and it appears the brown spots were already there then, they didn't just show up. (sorry for the alarm) but I think it will help me either way, in case there is something wrong.

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  • 17 years ago

    You have an Oncidium or an Oncidium Intergeneric. No one will will be able to tell you by just looking at the plant. There are thousands of hybrids and within each hybrid crossing, infinite variations.

    Do not worry about the little black spots, they appear when the plant is subject to high light. Plants looks healthy.

    What is an Oncidium Intergenic? Beallara is one of those and is a Brassia x Cochlioda x Miltonia x Odontoglossum. Whoever made that call was very brave....You will have to wait to till flowering and even then you might not get a positive id unless it is something that has been produced countless times such as Oncidium Sharry Baby.

  • 17 years ago

    Not a good explanation. Beallara doesn't have an Oncidium as an ancestor. But all those orchids that make up a Beallara are in the Oncidiinae subtribe.
    An Oncidium Intergeneric should have an Oncidium plus at least one other Genera as an ancestor.

  • 17 years ago

    As for the wrinkling of the PBs...have you made any recent environment changes that may adversely affect the humidity or were they possibly beginning to wrinkle before you added the water tray?

  • 17 years ago

    Hort, they were wrinkled before I added the water tray. I hate to admit it, but I haven't taken very good care of this poor thing. Now that my Phals bloomed I want to help this one to do the same. I do realize it probably has a ways to go, and I do want to get it into good health as well.

    I just wish the id wasn't so complicated. I'm just gonna call it an Oncidium, the rest is way to in depth for me, I just want to know what I have so I can give it the proper care. No trading/selling/showing for me.

  • 17 years ago

    Hi
    In my limited experience, pbulbs shrivel if there isn't enough water getting to them through the roots. This is because they are either rotten, or the plant is being under watered. You may have to wait for a new flush of root growth (usually accompanies new leaf growth) before you can see some improvement. Overall the plant looks pretty good though!

  • 17 years ago

    "No trading/selling/showing for me" i can imagine the guy or gal who wins the major trophy at an orchid show saying something similar when their collection consisted of one or two plants.

    There is some light reading in the FAQ titled "What does all this name stuff mean" .

    Yes call it an Oncidium for now and fingers crossed it will bloom for you in Autumn.

  • 17 years ago

    "No trading/selling/showing for me" Yes, I can remember thinking that. Then I joined an orchid society. They said "Don't be shy, bring anything in bloom to show-and-tell" at a time when I actually had one in bloom. The rest, as they say, is history.

  • 17 years ago

    A couple of things.

    Pbs (pseudobulbs - yes, you have it right) wrinkle when they get older. If all the pbs are wrinkled, then the plant has likely been underwatered. If so, enough moisture should fill out the newer pbs over time.

    The other thing is that, to maximize the plant's light usage, consider cleaning the leaves - bottom and top - and pbs with lemon juice, diluted lemon juice, or milk. I use straight, bottled lemon juice on a paper towel, and others have said the other 2 work fine, too.

    Then, if you rinse the leaves and pbs w/ your fingers under tepid running water when you leach, you'll keep dust from building up.

    Added benefit - the washing helps keep bugs and infections at bay.

    Additionally, if there's some air movement around the plant, if the temp range is okay, and if it gets several hours of direct sunlight daily - unblocked by trees, curtains, roof overhang, etc. - it may bloom. Sometimes orchids can have textbook-perfect conditions and still keep us humble by not blooming. :)

    Whitecat8

  • 17 years ago

    I have two Beallaras. One is in a south window, close to the glass, but the window is covered with a white sheer mesh curtain. The other is in a west window, again, up against the glass, but no window covering on this one. I haven't had the one in the west window long enough to say it will rebloom there, but it's looking good. The one in the south window was planning on blooming, but I got really busy with work and let it get too dry one too many times. Both of them have wrinkled pseudobulbs and spots, one of them has accordion leaves. But they are otherwise growing well.

    My recommendation is using the wooden skewer method. I just left mine stuck in the medium and pulled it out when I wanted to check it. If the skewer is damp, don't need to water. If it's dry, then it's ready for watering. Or you can cheat, like I'm doing now, and pot it in a clear orchid pot.

    Honestly, from the pics, yours looks good to me. It's a nice spring green, not too yellow, not too dark. You've got lots of leaves. I don't know if it's a Beallara for sure, but I'm guessing you can take care of it like it is some sort of Oncidium type and do well. Once it blooms, you should have a better chance of figuring out an ID on it. Don't worry about the wrinkled pseudobulbs unless the new growths are going wrinkly too; the older pseudobulbs just seem to do that. I agree, keep an eye out for a bloom spike around the fall. Good luck!

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