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killer phal? -- will this infect everything else?

14 years ago

I have come back from a couple of weeks of holiday to find a phal has started going rogue.

I am not sure what the plant-sitter did (or maybe it started before I went away), but three leaves were yellow when I came back and now a total of four or five lower leaves have turned yellow or are doing so, pretty rapidly.

Of those, the ones that are not fully yellow are showing yellow spots, particularly on the undersides.

And on the fully yellow ones, there are dozens and dozens of tiny reddish-brown dots visible, pretty densely spaced on the underside of the leaf. Rubbing them results in a fine powder, almost like cinnamon, on the end of the finger.

Is this some kind of fungus? I don't know if they could be mites, since they are so evenly spaced.

Any thoughts on what I could do to treat it?

We have small kids and I don't want to use strong pesticides/fungicides/bactericides in the house and it is too cold where I am to leave it outside and spray it there, if necessary.

I have a treasured aerangis in another room and a couple of dens. (kingianum and moniliforme) in other parts of the house, where conditions suit them best, and am determined not to let them get infected, if this is contagious.

Should I just bin it, fast, before it infects anything else?

Here's a link to some photos, but unfortunately, I cannot yet get a decent image of the reddish-brown dots!

Here is a link that might be useful: killer phal?

Comments (6)

  • 14 years ago

    Sounds like you (sorry, your plant) has spider mites for sure. At least from you description and appearance of the plant I would bet on it.

    These can be very difficult to get rid of, but whatever method you use, persistence seems to be necessary. Google 'spider mite control' and you'll find lots of recommendations. I can't say for sure which method of control is more likely to succeed. Sometimes you just have to pick one, try it out and move on to something else if it doesn't work.

    It's often said these are very contagious, but that hasn't been my experience. I had a bad outbreak on a couple of plants this winter, but it never spread to plants just inches away. However, if you can isolate the other not-infected plants, it's probably a good idea.

    Kevin

  • 14 years ago

    Thanks very much indeed for the advice, Kevin. I am much obliged.
    I have found a product reputed to be effective against spider mites but pesticide free and safe even for plants where kids are in the environment. Now if I could just find where these things came from... (the mites, not the kids)
    So a couple of further questions arise.
    Should I slice off the infested yellow leaves to reduce the amount of treatment the plant needs, or should I just let them wither and fall as I would with a normally ageing, but healthy leaf?
    And another question came to mind when I was pondering that question: what is best to use for sterilising blades and such when dealing with infestations and similar problems? Flame? Alcohol? Chlorine bleach?
    Or are they all as effective?
    Grateful for any advice.

  • 14 years ago

    Yes I would cut off the leaves. As far as sterilizing goes, I've never heard of using bleach, but it probably would work. I think the flame or alcohol would do the trick just fine.

    Critters on plants are funny (not ha-ha funny, just strange) I always find it interesting that some plant may become infected and other plants nearby aren't. I've noticed the same thing with scale, aphids and mealies. It's understandable if a plant is weak or sick, but when one perfectly healthy plant gets something and other nearby plants don't, I always wonder why.

    Kevin

  • 14 years ago

    Kevin, thanks again for the help.
    Leaves are cut and binned. And spray just arrived, so tomorrow I will give it a good drenching.
    In the past I have also noticed the situation which you describe -- especially with mealie bugs: infesting an otherwise healthy plant, but studiously ignoring its neighbour.
    But I am keeping all my others well away until I have the phal back in good health.
    Bests, BR

  • 14 years ago

    I have spider mites affecting some of my Alocasias downstairs, but they haven't spread to my orchids, or the banana-family plants I have down there. They also haven't touched my Monstera plant, either. I'm thinking that they prefer to attack plants with a leaf surface that's easy for them to pierce. The plants with the thicker, more waxy cuticle seem to be left alone by mites and mealies, in my house.

  • 14 years ago

    Well, the treatment does not seem to have done much so far, and I will have to keep on keeping on. Looks like I am losing another leaf to the mites. Am starting to wish it was a yucca, zzyzzyx...!
    But Kevin did warn me this might take some time.

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