Dtps. Carole Hoyt (Dtps. Buena Lemon Brite x Phal. Hausermann's Goldcup)

Doritis have been reclassified as Phals but not uniformily accepted. RHS is usually years behind on name changes for species families and continues to use the old cross name in the hybrids.

No Dtps or Phal is naturally a summer bloomer. Genetically they bloom in the fall or spring when the temperatures day to night vary 15-20 degrees. The length of day is also important.

Summer Phal blooms have been mannipulated to bloom out of season and generally weakens the plant. It often disrupts the plant enought to miss flowering the next year as it has not had enough time to strength for a new blooming season.

Hmmmmm, I wonder why I currently have many Phal. bellina, violaceas, fasciata, bastianii, tetraspis, doweryensis, cochlearis, kunsterleri, javanica, cornu-cervi blooming now?

Why would I also have the hybrids from these plants blooming now?

The most famous summer bloomers are the Doritis pulcherrima and chumpornensis - they haven't even spiked yet.

Yes there are summer bloomers and they start blooming when the temps warm up and they quit blooming when the temps cool down.

Jerry as a commercial grower I am surprised to hear this misinformation from you. If you don't have any summer bloomers to sell, you should look into getting some, they are very attractive and popular. You don't have to manipulate the plants to have phals in bloom year round.

Brooke

My Doritis chumpornensis is just starting to spike now (same time as it did last year), so I'm inclined to agree with Brooke - there are certainly summer blooming phal types.

That said, Doritis & its hybrids generally prefer more light than straight Phals. Nicole, perhaps you can move it to slightly brighter window or put it up a little closer to the glass? That just might be enough incentive for the plant to spike. It's possible that it is actually a fall bloomer (and was forced into spike when you bought it). Int that case the extra light will help it build energy for the fall.

Best,
~Jem

Thamks All!

I think I will place this gal in a brighter spot.
My Phals all get a cool period in the fall, and cool nights all winter as we are stingy with the heat.
They do seem to be on a weird schedule though; most of my phals are in bud now, for example my Baldan's Kaleidescope just started opening its flowers this week.

I appreciate all the advice!

Nicole

I will apologize for too general a statement, but I ususally do not consider miniatures and species when people ask about phal crosses.

Also in Florida it is 70 in the winter and 100 in the summer so we see very few summer blooms. My pulcherrima and chumpornensis hybrids all finished flowering last month.

I did not see anything in the family tree of Carole Hoyt to indicate it would be a summer bloomer.

Actually I thought you were pretty specific with your information when you used the words 'no summer bloomers' 'genetically bloom' and 'manipulated' to explain to someone in Zone 5 why their plant won't bloom this year.

I do not understand your statement that you do not consider species in the equation since all hybrids originate from the species. I also did not list any miniatures that are currently blooming like parishii and chibae.

When checking Carole Hoyt on Orchid Wiz, the species showing up are mariae, pallens, violacea, lueddemanniana and several crosses to amboinensis - all summer blooming species. Throw in the spring bloomers of aphrodite, amabilis, schilleriana and sanderiana it sounds like a summer bloomer to me.

Some of my current summer blooming phals -

Princess Kaiulani - {{gwi:174719}} {{gwi:174720}} {{gwi:174721}}

Joy Spring Venus 'Tina' {{gwi:174722}}

bastianii 'Pearl' {{gwi:174723}}

Hilo's Lip 'Koy's Memory' HCC/AOS {{gwi:174724}}

Brother Spot 'Sweet' {{gwi:174725}}

Summer is a very colorful time on my phal tables.

Brooke