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Questions for a mature Vanda

16 years ago

I have a vanda, it bloomed some times. Three years ago stopped blooming, growing though at the top (very slowly), got a new plant at the bottom (now about one foot long).

Nowaday "the mother " has a large stem like a turkey neck (with no leaves), some leaves are at the top and is getting some nice thick roots in several parts of that "long turkey neck". What should I do ? Leave it that way ? Cut the top with leaves and some roots ? And the "turkey neck with roots ? and the small new vanda at the bottom ?

Thank you for your help.

Alma

Comments (15)

  • 16 years ago

    what you do is basically going to be up to you. it'll be more attractive if you cut off the mother plant under some of the best/strongest roots. make sure you dust the cut with some cinnamon. as for the baby (keiki) you could probably remove it, but odds are you won't have to. once the mother plant is removed, cut the old stem off at the base and let the keiki have the whole basket to itself. it'll grow really fast. as for why it's not blooming, i couldn't really tell you, other than i'm pretty sure the bare stem isn't the cause.

  • 16 years ago

    Thank you cody mi, I think I'll do what you're saying.
    I agree with you that the vanda will be more attractive if I cut that long turkey neck, and I've another question ...
    What will happen with that long stem with some roots after I cut the top ??
    Should I repot the long neck (it has some thick roots), Could I get a new plant from that ? I know is a crazy question, but I needed to do it. Thanks. Alma

  • 16 years ago

    in my experience, you probably wont get any more plants from the old stem after the top is removed. maybe someone else knows more about it.

  • 12 years ago

    Hi, I have a similar problem as mentioned above of a vanda I recently purchased from a nursery. She was the only/last plant available with that particular colour/flower so I could not resist wanting to rescue her.

    As the flowering spike has almost reached the end of her lifespan, while a little spike is growing out from the top half of the plant, I decided that I would have to repot the top half either now or 2-3 months later after the new spike's flowering season is over. Given how waterlogged and algae covered the pot+plant base+lower roots appear, I decided to opt for the plant's long term health and snipped off the remaining open flowers (now sitting indoors in a glass for display), and repotted the top half of the plant that has healthy leaves + roots (and am hoping desperately that my infant flower spike will not wilt).

    As for the mother plant, I am left with the dilemma of whether I should keep her in hope of keikis? She has two barely surviving leaves clinging on loosely but appears to have some new root growth at the same time (there are a couple of baby roots climbing up the very bare centre stalk) so I'm hopeful that there will be a chance of the plant's survival instinct kicking it to produce keikis now that she has lost her crown (and will soon probably have no leaves once these barely surviving 2 fall off)?

    Anyone has any idea/experience in a similar case? (Or perhaps ice_cream_lover can share what eventually happened with the turkey neck section of the plant?)

  • 12 years ago

    If you have space, I'd lay it on its side with the roots you describe going into growing medium and hope for more babies. If the roots go every whichaway, you could also air layer into bags of medium. Since you (ice cream lover) mentioned it had roots in several locations, this would encourage more than one offshoot. Maybe. I don't grow vandas, so it's just a guess, but seems logical. I agree about survival instinct. As long as the plant has a chance of perpetuating itself, it will surely try.

  • 12 years ago

    I grow vandas but I'm lost from your description. Could you provide a picture or 2 please?

  • 12 years ago

    I grow some Vandas, but would never 'pot up' those roots-- my understanding is that they are supposed to just hang free... don't put anything around those roots, the plant doesn't want anything to interfere with it getting the air around those roots... all my Vanda's are in open baskets with nothing around the plant, and the roots hang down free. They require frequent watering with the food in the water, I use liquid orchid fert. weak-weekly with lots of light.... maybe other Vanda growers can chime in on this, good luck, sally

  • 12 years ago

    Thanks for your thoughts!
    Here's a pic of the remaining mother plant as requested.

  • 12 years ago

    And a close up shot of it's random roots around the centre stem... (Which I suspect happened as the centre stem was probably all moist which led the roots to decide that getting water from it is a good idea?!)

  • 12 years ago

    And here's, the repotted top portion in pine bark chips...

    I have read conflicting views about watering it vs not watering it, but what seems to make most sense is to water it once a week to "force" the plant to make new roots in search of water, while not completely starving it. (It is pretty hot and humid here at easily 32 degree celsius in the day + 85-90% humidity!)

  • 12 years ago

    Hi every one:
    ARossini, I did the same thing long time ago. I had a long turkey neck vanda & a new keiki with roots. I cut and transplanted the keiki with roots, the mother plant (long turkey neck) had some roots of her own, repoted her but eventually she died. The keiki is growing nicely and she is not a keiki anymore, she's a mother plant and has keikis of her own. My problem is that my vanda has 7 years without blooming, she's at the same place, and giving the same care as always, but something happened to her. 7 year ago my husband got a big intestine surgery and for some months I couldn't give her all my attention, and since then she doesn't bloom. I thing my vanda got a kind of infection or something and have been trying everything, no luck though.

  • 12 years ago

    I'm so sorry to hear ice_cream_lover. Based on quite a bit of reading I've been doing, I might suggest that you attempt to repot and alter the conditions slightly since whatever you've tried has not yielded results in 7 years! (You are a very patient person!)
    Perhaps shift her location in the house to gradually receive more sunlight or change her feeding routine to increase the frequency while decreasing on the dosage each time? All the best!!!

    In the meantime, I just wanted to share an update on my above and:-
    1) the top cut's spike was not damaged in the repotting exercise and it looks like I will soon have flowers in a month's time
    2) the mother base stalk is still living and hasn't shed her two sickly leaves, I can see progress in the baby root growth around the stem as previously photographed, and little bright green bumps on her naked stem seem to be forming... So I'm hoping those might eventually develop into keikis

  • 11 years ago

    How is your Vanda?

  • 11 years ago

    The top cut has settled well, produced two thick and healthy "aerial roots" and flowered nicely, the bottom stump without leaves are still without leaves with no keikis (yet).

  • 11 years ago

    From what I read here on the forum it is just a matter of time and giving enough light, heat and humidity.

    a rather risky thought would be to suggest trying the keiki grow hormones...

    When the plant is in active growth, it is supposed to send out roots with red tips (as opposed to when it is slowing down and the root tips are white). I saw red tips on my Vanda stump and then I used a fermented "tea" made out of stinging nettles, borage, horsetail, chamomile, etc. It grew very quickly afterwards.

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