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Lagerfeld question

18 years ago

Hi, sorry that this is a repeat topic, but the thread about Lagerfeld and its browning edges isn't reachable, it doesn't seem; the search engine tells me "Oops!" and it appears to be one page earlier than the 60 pages of posts I have access to.

So, could someone give me a brief fill-in? I have Lagerfeld on order for next year; I know its a zone 7 plant, but there are about 8 of these plants growing in a city garden about 5 blocks from me, and I doubt they get any winter protection. They were lovely, but I did notice the browning edges. I assumed that was because the blooms were old, but then saw a few posts about the same issue. So, what's up with this? Anything I can do to prevent it? Would it prefer less direct sun for its fair complexion? Any other tips people can give me on this one's care in my zone?

Thanks so much!

Lara

Comments (9)

  • 18 years ago

    Lara,
    It was probably me complaining about thrip damage...I don't know about prevention except for using sprays (which I normally shy away from). The other thing was that for us, at least, it was the #1 rose for Japanese Beetles...couldn't keep them off. The blooms were beautiful when they weren't destroyed by these pests.
    :0) Phyl

  • 18 years ago

    Lara,
    Don't worry about the zone either. I am in zone 5b, and mine is 7 feet tall by summer. If you are using HMFR for zone information please notice most HT's and GR's and listed as zone 7.

  • 18 years ago

    Oh, as to care, mine likes a lot of water and a diet of organic-based fertilizers. It can be fussy the first couple of years, so don't fret. Especially if the canes seem a bit thin. It becomes more sturdy over the years. It was my first rose, so I am partial to it!

  • 18 years ago

    I love the scent on that one, and the delicate cool lavender color. I have seen thrips on these, but they haven't caused much damage here.

    Kelp/seaweed products work well with Lagerfeld to beef up the foliage.

  • 18 years ago

    Lagerfeld is quite pretty. It has another commercial name, that being Starlight. My past experience with it was that it was prone to mildew and could have weak stems on the candelabras that it threw. It can get tall, but it doesn't spread very wide. After smelling the flowers one can look past its faults more easily.

  • 18 years ago

    I live in zone5b. I've had mine for years and it does good.
    It gets up to 6'

  • 18 years ago

    Thank you everyone so much! Diane - I hadn't thought to ask Google for it! I should have known, I guess they have most internet text backed up... thanks!

    Thank you everyone for the encouragement; my fiance has a thing for the light colored roses - Lime Sublime is his baby! And he really needed this one too. I don't believe I've had any thrips yet (presumably I'd know it) and we don't yet have JBs (crossing fingers as HARD AS I CAN). My main rose bud eater is our bad, bad cat.

    Anyway, now that I know how to baby it, I feel more prepared.

    Bustopher also used the term "candleabras", which is great as I wouldn't have known how to describe that particular growth - is that something that should be discouraged? Does it have a tendency to put on vegetative buds? Lime Sublime did it near the end of last season (and all the buds were vegetative, if that's the term), and I was curious about its motives. I certainly didn't feed it any nitrogen.

    Thanks again! I was new to roses last year, and you all are responsible for the happiness of several of our babies.

    Best,
    Lara

  • 18 years ago

    Not a problem. Search here is broken (and has been a few times over the past year), and the links haven't caught up.

    Lagerfeld is classfied as a "Grandiflora" (Gr). The main characteristic of Grandifloras is that they "usually" produce candelabras (also called "sprays") of multiple blooms per stem, whereas Hybrid Teas (HTs) "usually" produce only one bloom per stem. Usually is in quotes because you can get HTs that bloom in sprays and Grandifloras that bloom one per stem. Eh. Treat them both the same as far as care is concerned. You can try to disbud (removing the buds when they are small) to get less blooms per stem, but...WHY??? (unless you are an exhibitor, and that's a whole 'nother subject)

    Lagerfeld doesn't vegetate (also called proliferation) for me. With some roses it just happens, usually in the spring, sometimes late fall, weather related for sure.