I'd like to have a few of these as well. I've mostly seen them mounted or potted like Neofinetias. I don't know whether they like to be potted that way or not, but I like the way they look.

Here is a link that might be useful: Dend Mon. potted

Those are nice and it seems to make sense. Here's a pic of one of my plants. This is a tiny one named 'Benikomachi'. It's around 2 inches tall and I guess, that's as tall as it gets.

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K

I don't have any yet. I almost bought a couple last year and I find myself wanting some. I wonder if they've potted them such that the Japanese method, as it were, is simulated? Is there anything at the base of the pot to create a big air space? I would pull one out and investigate. If the bottom is packed with peanuts or some other inert thing that will create a big air space, I'd leave it until spring. I think these things are like Neos and possibly many other vandaceous plants in that they will grow better when potted in the Japanese style. This is just my theory and I haven't tested it fully. I bet they would look awesome mounted on a nice decorative piece of wood like those pics that were recently posted in this forum.

Kev, hang on. I have about 10, and this is their 2nd winter. Sphag in plastic pots seems the set up of choice, and they have a seasonal watering schedule. Tomorrow, I'll get it to you, if not tonight.

Whitecat 8

Nice to find other humans growing Neos in MN. None of my Neos are from Glenn but I did get 5 Dend moniliforme from him over the summer. I repotted 1 of them right away and left the other 4 out of laziness. A month later, I found spider mites on those 4 but nothing spread to the rest of my collection. They've been treated since and are fine now but I'll never be lazy about repotting again. Mine are potted in the moss mound with the cavity in those miniature cymbidium pots.

Here you go. FWIW, this is from Jason Fischer, who speaks fluent Japanese, goes to Japan periodically and studies orchids w/ some of the long-time growers (esp. Neos).

1. No fertilizer, ever.

2. Good quality tap water is fine, but no RO - they need the minerals, etc. in regular water.

3. November through February, make sure the sphag is "crispy dry" before watering.

4. From March through May, the sphag should be "barely damp" before watering.

5. June & July  the sphag can be almost "soaking wet" all the time.

6. August through October - sphag barely damp before watering.

7. Once a month, spray w/ horticultural oil to prevent whiteflies.

8. Summer outside, if possible.

9. In my E/SE light, supplemented by T8s, the plants should be in the first row, close to the windows, but they'd like more light.

Of course, Glenn told me he fertilizes his, but only w/ a special mix from Japan. :)

Glenn's climate is lots different from ours, but he'll know what you should do right now, plus he may have a different watering schedule.

Orchids Ltd. has theirs in the cool house, which goes to 60 at night in the winter. I forget the daytime highs, but the Masdies and Neos are in there.

Last winter/spring, mine hardly bloomed. I'm hoping it was the adjustment from Japan to here. In September or so, they started budding - out of season. Jason said to keep watering them, if the buds were more than little nubs - they are.

Treehaus, lovely shot. I potted some of mine in those plastic Neo pots, and they dried out so fast that I put them back in the plain old plastic ones, w/ lots of exposed roots.

I put marbles and those colored glass stones that look like flattened marbles in the bottom of all my pots for drainage and for weight. The Den mons seem to be okay w/ those so far, but time will tell.

Linht, I've had whiteflies barely get started on mine a couple of times, and I've gotten obsessed w/ looking at every leaf a couple of times a week.

MB, you should get some!

February, '07:
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Oct. 18, '08. The buds are larger now, but maybe they won't open.

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Hope this helps, Whitecat8

Thanks for the details on cultivation. I should note that I did not take the picture I linked to above, I just found it on Flickr where I have been admiring it for a while.

WC, thanks for posting the detailed culture info. I talk mostly about the Neos with Jason so never really asked him much about the Dend monoliforme.

Thank you everyone!

Mr. B - I did check the pots and there doesn't seem to be anything in there but sphag. I made an important observation however. This stuff dries out. The last time I watered was less than a week ago and it's already totally crispy. Probably because it's such a high quality moss and isn't packed in the pots tightly. Maybe I'll be OK. Next spring I can make the final decision as to how I want to grow these.

WC - That is wonderful info. Thank you. It's very similar to the info on the New World page, but much more detailed. That's good. My night temps are going to be a bit cooler - probably down to 55, but I think that should be fine. I did notice one plant I received went almost totally yellow within a week of receiving it, but that may have been because it was getting too much light. I had it pretty close to the bulbs. I also noticed what appears to be buds forming on at least one plant. Sure hope they are at least.

I don't like the idea of these being critter magnets, so I will inspect often.

Can't wait to place another order with New World. They have an orange flowering Neo I lusted after, but it was expensive. I least I got a green flowering one and a few pink ones. Just love these Dends too. Must have more.

Kevin

Glad the info is helpful. Kev, 55F at night is fine, from what I understand. I can never understand how O. Ltd's cool house can be as "warm" as 60 and have everything in good shape. My Den mons get 58 on winter nights.

The one that I pre-ordered from Glenn before the Midwest Orchid Congress, or whatever, in Chicago April before last is supposed to have "cherry red" blossoms. Can't wait for that one to bloom. And one from Jason has been bred specifically for fragrance. No buds on that one, unfortunately.

Kevin, last time I was @ O. Ltd, Jason had some yellow-flowering Neos that were about $25, I think, if that would appeal to you. It was hard to resist one, esp. because my larger Neo has rebloomed @ my place, and the little one has put out 2 new growths. Sweet.

Take care, WC8

Sorry, people, not trying to change the subject but just curious about the yellow neo for $25.

Whitecat8, what's the name of the yellow flowering neo Jason has for $25?

Is it 'Zuinn' the light yellow - cream colored one? From what I understand, that's one of the few true species neos that are "yellow". All the ones with the bright yellow or orange yellow flowers have Ascocentrum in the background or are hybrids. Even though they are not true species though, they are still pretty expensive. I think Glenn has a different opinion but this is what Jason told me.

Hi, Linht,

Or the yellow-flowering Neo might be $35, but the price wasn't outrageous.

Sorry, I didn't pay attention to the name. Maybe a call to Jason?

Let me know if you find out anything.

WC8

Going quickly through their list, I couldn't find any yellow for under $100. Maybe I missed something.

Linht,

Are you sure about the yellow and orange ones being hybrids? I would think they would be listed as such since other hybrids are listed separately.

Kevin

Just talked to Jason. He has the single-growth Neo 'Kibana' for $50 that should bloom next summer, says it's similar to the 'Ogonmaru.' Sorry for the mix-up on prices - maybe wishful remembering.

About the hybrid question, this is from the OLtd. site, although they don't list any in stock:

"Neofinetia falcata 'Ogonmaru' - Yellow Ogonmaru means gold. Light to dark yellow flowers that are fragrant, occasionally smells like Citrus. Although it is not a true species (there is a percentage of Ascocentrum in the background, but the Japanese never kept track of this and go ahead and call the plant a Fuuran) the yellow flower is one of the most rare colors available."

Kevin, there didn't seem to be a yellow-flowered Neo listed as available. Which one did you see for $100?

As w/ all the growers, calling to ask seems in order because they don't list everything. Case in point - last month, I was at OLtd, and Jason showed me a Trichoceros antennifer in spike. When I asked what the flowers looked like, he realized they didn't have it on the website yet, and we went to Jay's site.

WC8

Here is a link that might be useful: Trichoceros antennifer

Kibana Furan $110, 220
Kibana Yamaden $189,240
Kohou $150,225
There was also a yellow/orange one listed. Forgot the price.

These were all at New World Orchids.

The hybrid question really has me intrigued. If anyone can point me to a discussion about this, I would love to read it. I spent a good amount of time this morning looking and only found a limited discussion on another forum (Can't remember which one it was). In any case, the author of that thread seemed to indicate no one was really sure if this was the case or not.

WC - Did you get the Trichoceros? I've had one for a few years, got it to bloom once, it almost croaked and now is in slow recovery. They're really cute plants.

K

LOL, Thanks for checking with Jason so promptly, Whitecat8!

Kevin, from what I've read elsewhere and was told, 'Kibana' and 'Ogonmaru' are 2 that are not confirmed as true species. I talked to Jason about the yellow Neofinetia drama a few months ago at the greenhouse. Basically, he said at this point there has been no actual "yellow" flowered Neo. falcata discovered in the wild. The only way to really verify if these yellow ones being sold, are true species, is to do DNA testing. At this point nobody has been willing to fork out the dough to do the testing yet. I cannot explain the whole thing as well as he can so here's a link below to a discussion he had with some people a while back. This is the jist of what he told me a few months ago. Jason said there was one guy in the Japanese Fuukiran Society that claimed to have found a yellow one growing in the wild but others in the organization believe he may have hybridized it and planted it, himself.

Also, just an FYI...
I don't know how into Neos you are but if you ever want to get one of the more expensive ones ($100+ for a 1 growth) you should definitely check with Neo Jedi Master (Jason at OL) before ordering anything from Glenn. Jason only has maybe 1/3 of his Neos listed on the website. Many of the pricier ones are actually cheaper from him than NWO. He says because he speaks Japanese and has excellent sweet talking skills, he's usually able to obtain many of them at a lower price from the Japanese growers. Glenn supposedly, has a Japanese interpreter who doesn't know anything about Neofinetia. Not Glenn's fault though, he's a super nice guy to deal with. Another great source of Neos is Satomi Kasahara at Seed Engei. They do shows in CA so we, in MN, can only buy from them via ebay. They sell under the name "japaneseorchids". Depending on how many neo freaks are bidding at the time, you may be able to get one at a great price. The bottom link is a thread from another forum. Not sure if it's ok to post here so if I get banned, it was nice talkin' to y'all fellow Minnesotans:)

Here is a link that might be useful: Yellow Neofinetia

Wow! That's great info. Thanks so much . I had no idea there was this debate going on about yellow Neos. At this point in time, I'm not sure where I'm going with them. I think I'm more smitten with the Dends, but once the Neos bloom, I might change my mind. I've always loved my plain old white one.

When I was doing the searching early this morning, I also came across that "new" species discovered in China (Neof. richardsoniana) back in 1996. There's even a pic of it on Jay's site. Kind of cool. There was also a mention of a 3rd species, but I didn't bookmark the source, so I don't remember the name. I think it started with an "x", but I could be wrong. Things can get a bit blurry at 4am.

In any case, this has been really interesting. Thanks all.

Kevin

Linht, wow, another controversy raging in the orchid world. Fascinating. Thanks for the link.

Kevin, I got the Trichceros, which I thought Jason said grew in intermediate conditions - but I don't always ask, so don't quote me on that. Afterward, I looked at Jay's, who says it's cool to cold growing. How are you growing yours?

Let us know how your Den mons do.

WC8