Ok, bboy gave me the welcome advice (in the sense that all good advice is welcome) that own root Gloire de Dijon would not grow in our area, but I cannot find it grafted. I have tried all the US places suggested in the Helpmefind web space.

So does anyone know where I can get grafted GdD? I need two. Can we get plants from Germany/France/England? Postage would be alot, but that's the least of my worries.

I am also looking for a source for Madame Isaac Pereire and for recommendations for an East facing, open, 37 ft, very stout, unshaded pergola which already will have a white wisteria on the south end and Madame Alfred Carriere on the North end (so prefer no more white). It is shaded by the house on the West.