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Rose for a hedge

15 years ago

Hello all! I am spending cold February planning my garden projects for Spring. I want to plant a rose hedge in my front yard along the driveway but it's driving me batty trying to decide on one. I could do with some suggestions!

My front yard gets full sun and great air-circulation.

1) The rose must be a dark color ( my house is bright white) so I don't want a white,v light pink or cream rose.

2) The rose must be extremely hardy for Chicago winters, this will be an exposed area.

3) The rose must be disease-resistant ( I do not spray).

4) I'd like the height to be no more than 4 feet.

Right now, I am greatly leaning towards the Hybrid Musk 'Nur Mahal'. I love the color, fragrance and it seems easy to grow. I'm confused about its dimensions though. It may be too tall. Other candidates - Therese Bugnet (perhaps too tall) and Gertrude Jekyll (also maybe too tall?)

Help pls!

Comments (6)

  • 15 years ago

    If you're willing to consider Therese Bugnet, you're willing to consider rugosas more generally, no?

    If so, I suspect the one you're really after may be Hansa. I have never grown it myself to know for certain that it's the right height for you, but I have grown Rosa rugosa and suspect you'll probably be satisfied with its height as a hedge.

    I'm sure others who have more experience with rugosas than I have will offer more exact opinions than I can.

  • 15 years ago

    I have several Hansas in zone 5 NW Indiana, and they can get much taller than 4 feet. Mine reach 6 feet with no problem. They also tend to get blackspot easily the with bare legs that follow when the leaves drop off, although that may be due to the shade they're in much of the day. My other rugosas don't have that problem.

  • 15 years ago

    The David Austin catalog lists several varieties for a medium hedge including Harlow Carr (pink), L.D. Braitwaite (red), Knockout (red), Mary Rose (pink). Tall hedge roses include Carefree Beauty (pink) and Roseraie de l'Hay (rugosa, red).

  • 15 years ago

    If you are trying to stay away from pink, Gertrude Jekyll should perhaps not be on your list. She is very fragrant, but she is indeed pink, and perhaps not a dark enough pink to make you happy. And as others have already pointed out, she can get quite tall. Galloping Gertie, as some have called her, tends to put out looooong canes, not exactly what you're looking for in a hedge. I think of her as a climber wannabe.
    You may want to consider the dark red rose Lavaglut. Dark red velvety flowers in profusion. Repeat bloomer. Disease free or close to it in a variety of climate conditions. Stays pretty much at 2.5-4 feet. What's wrong with this picture? The primary drawback is the absence of fragrance. Only you can decide how important fragrance is to you in a hedge.
    Kay

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for the suggestions :D

    york_rose and karl: I've seen a lot of rugosas at Chi Botanical Gardens and Hansa is quite massive over there. Actually except for Blanc double de Coubert (which I grow), all the rugosas they have are too large. I don't think I've seen Therese there.

    predfern: I was actually considering Carefree Beauty. It seems very hardy and disease resistant.

    onederw: Yeah, I was worried about Gertie's height. Of the Austins, I was thinking of The Prince actually. I grew it in the past and it's height, color and fragrance were amazing. I was also drooling over William Shakespeare 2000 although I have never grown it. Unfortunately, Austins here tend to die back quite a bit :-( Lavaglut does sound appealing though.

  • 15 years ago

    I think I've seen Carefree Beauty recommended as a good hedge rose in several different rose books.

    Another possibility might be hardy John Franklin; it looks like a natural for a hedge.

    Best wishes,
    Mary

    Here is a link that might be useful: Picture of John Franklin