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What would you name it?

18 years ago

In August of 2006 while touring Germany, I visited Linderhof Palace. The gardens were lush green and the views were breathtaking.

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After eating lunch in the neighboring town of Fussen, I was standing in a traffic circle admiring a huge, highly fragrant rose. The rose was a bright shade of pink, but fading to a clear white. It also had very large hips which were deep red aging to a purplish red. Its effect was quite stunning. Somehow some of these hips ended up in my pocket and I felt like I had no choice but to bring them home ;-). I winter sowed them on the winter solstice in 2006 and it saddened me when they did not germinate last spring. Well yesterday when I was checking my "jugs" for germination, I noticed that some of these seeds have sprouted. HHRD!

As I worked in my yard yesterday, I tried to decide where to fit this rose into my garden. Since Linderhof was modeled after Louis XIV's palace in Versailles, I thought I would pair it with the Louis XIV I am picking up from RU next week. Since this will be "my own" seedling, I get to have a garden name for it. Hopefully it will be very similar to the parent plant. I am looking for suggestions.

What would you name this rose?

Kathy

Comments (19)

  • 18 years ago

    Beautiful vista. Being German, I have to admit that I haven't seen too many outdoor palm trees in Germany yet, but may be the climate change is about to take care of it - these palm trees appear to be still sitting in pots though!

    As to the name, why not go for the obvious which is also distinct and has a nice ring to it: Schloss Linderhof (or Linderhof Palace, but I'd stick with the German original). I hope the blooms will be as pretty as the palace.

    Good luck,
    Andrea

  • 18 years ago

    Kathleen's Treasure

    Katherine's Treasure

  • 18 years ago

    As a nod to the French connection of Linderhof, how about Souvenir de Schloss Linderhof? Perhaps even more appropriate since you took home a "souvenir", the hips.

    Ingrid

  • 18 years ago

    Ingrid and Andrea, you are both on a similar track to what I was thinking. I thought since Linderhof was modeled after the French castles that I would model my name after the French style of roses taken from one place to another. I speak NO German but from my research "Reiseandenken acc Schloss Linderhof" might work. Did I translate it correctly?

    Kathy

  • 18 years ago

    I'd shorten it a tad, so perhaps call it Andenken an Schloss Linderhof. "Reise" (journey) makes it a little too long and is redundant since "Andenken" (memory) makes the meaning sufficiently clear. Alternatively, you could take a cue from Rudolf Geschwind's roses and call it Erinnerung (memory) an Schloss Linderhof.

    If you check roses containing "Andenken" or "Erinnerung" at HMF, you'll see that "Andenken" is in most cases, but not in all, related to a person (possibly deceased at the time of the naming, in memory of), while Erinnerung mostly relates to places. But both terms would work with a rose. I might choose "Andenken", since it sounds a bit nicer in this particular combination (although for some reason I adore the name Geschwind gave his rose Erinnerung an Brod).

    I'd probably stick with the German version since the palace is German, even if modeled after Versailles, and it sounds better in this combination and is more distinct than the all too common "Souvenir".

    Andrea

  • 18 years ago

    I have nothing to add to the suggestions of the naming, but wanted to pipe in and say how beautiful I found the setting of the garden to be. There is something about tree covered mountains that fills me with joy. I hope your rose turns out to be healthy, fragrant, and beautiful.

  • 18 years ago

    Hmm... maybe 'Andenken des Schleichens durch Flughafensicherheit'? ;)

  • 18 years ago

    lolol

  • 18 years ago

    ROFLMAO

  • 18 years ago

    Andrea, thanks for the German lesson, that is just the assistance I was looking for. So far I have three sprouts so I guess I will have three garden names.

    Rosefolly, it was truly a magical place. The roses were not growing on the property of the castle, but in an nearby village.

    Stefan, after consulting with a on-line translation, I have to be more specific. There were the rugosas along the Rhine, the lavender I was observing while waiting for my BF to pay a hotel bill, and all the interestingly shaped hips along the canals in The Netherlands ;-)

    Kathy

  • 18 years ago

    Congratulations. I hope you'll share pictures when they finally bloom. Keep us posted. Jeff

  • 18 years ago

    I can't do a name but the view is so alluring! Congratulations on your seedling. I hope we'll get to see it.

    Carla

  • 18 years ago

    Stefan, that was priceless! Manchmal ist es wirklich besser zu Hause zu bleiben. Schleichen durch den eigenen Rosengarten ist viel bequemer.

    Ingrid

  • 18 years ago

    Stefan, thanks for a good hearty laugh! I didn't know there were so many German speakers (native speakers?) on the forum. I definitely need to get back in practice, though my budget makes any trip to German speaking parts very, very unlikely anytime soon.

    Kathy, beautiful photo of a beautiful place! Thanks for sharing, and best of luck with your baby roses!

    Melissa

  • 18 years ago

    Another alternative is Gruss an Linderhof, Greeting to Linderhof, as in many German rose names, Gruss an Teplitz, Gruss an Aachen, etc. But don't add an umlaut! Too many writers, Peter Beales for instance, put umlaut on the u in the singular Gruss. Only the plural takes the umlaut.

  • 18 years ago

    Ingrid, I agree with the translation I found for your phrase "Sometimes it is really better at home to remain. Creep by own rose garden is much more comfortable". I am most comfortable at home in my own garden, sometimes I have to pry myself away. But when I travel, I do enjoy creeping around other gardens. Even though I try to resist, seeds quite often find their way back to my garden.

    Mariannese, I had forgotten about Gruss, I think I will name the rugosas from seed I collected along the Rhine, Gruss an Oberwesel.

    This is a such an educational forum.

    Kathy

  • 18 years ago

    Kathy, I think traveling is wonderful, but what I dread is the long airplane flights to Europe, especially from the West Coast, and the long waits Stefan was alluding to, as you're "creeping" through security at a snail's pace. Airplanes are so crowded nowadays; traveling to San Francisco from here some years ago didn't seem much better than flying to India decades ago. Of course, I was also decades younger, with more patience and stamina for that sort of thing. But your picture of Linderhof is so enticing that I do feel some regret that we decided not to do a boat tour down the Danube this fall. Leaving our animals is so hard, especially our kitty who had his eye removed recently and is clinging to us much more now. I'm glad that we were all able to share your beautiful trip vicariously, and how wonderful that you were able to bring back a really meaningful and wonderful souvenir.

    Ingrid

  • 18 years ago

    Hey, as long as y'all don't try to sneak (schleichen) through airport security with seeds and weeds other than those of roses and lavender that accidentally dropped into your pockets or clung to your shoes while you were strolling along the Danube or Dutch canals (just leave those Amsterdam specialties back where they belong), you'll be just fine. I can't remember any Flugsicherheit ever checking the soles of anyone's shoes for seeds of, say more worrisome, invasive species like the dreaded Euro-dandelion (ok, I made that one up), despite all the time consuming shoe-x-ray business. Now this is an omission that produces the kind of hitch hiking which makes biological import-export work so well. Some interesting books have been written about it, see for instance Alfred Crosby's classic The Columbian Exchange.

    Enjoy the roses!

    Andrea

    Here is a link that might be useful: Crosby, Columbian Exchange

  • 18 years ago

    Ingrid, Oh, I did not understand that is what Stefan's was referring to, thanks for clearing it up. I flew yesterday and had no delays whatsoever. Normally traffic on I66 is an huge issue at that time of day, it wasn't yesterday, baggage check in lines can be long, no lines yesterday. I sailed right through security, walked right up to an empty x-ray/metal detector and had my shoes on and laptop packed away before the next person was sent to that queue. That put me at the gate well over an hour before my flight (which was a half an hour late departing). I agree about the flights to Europe being long. But so far, have been worth the effort. I think I will be taking a business trip to The Netherlands for the tulip season this spring!

    Andrea, I attempt to practice good stewardship when sneaking seed. I avoid plants which have any chance of being endangered or invasive. The species roses from the canals in Holland were stretching the invasiveness envelope (I live in the multiflora belt), and to be truthful, I am a little relieved that they have not germinated.

    Kathy