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another question about sun/shade

18 years ago

Does the sun light have to be continuous. Can if be a few hrs here and there? My front garden gets some in the early morning then the sun passes over the trees so there is light shade then the sun will hit it again about 1:30 to 2 in the aft. for another couple of hrs. I'm going crazy trying to decide what to put there. Right now it gets sun all day but once the leaves come out that's what happens. Thanks for any input. Donna

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago

    sounds good. in the heat of summer it may appreciate the break.

  • 18 years ago

    There are things, rather specifically hydrangeas and tree peonies, that require that kind of exposure. Roses will tolerate it. So for the most part, I don't waste that kind of space on roses. However, I also don't have a lot of places like that.

  • 18 years ago

    I once read an article in the ARS journal from one of the well-known rosarians that it was his observance that the best gardens of roses he had seen had a significant amount of shade, which he suspected, despite all the myths about roses not tolerating shade, is that the appreciated some shade. I am not sure how much shade he is talking about but my roses get intermittent sun and some of my best ones get less sun than others. I think it depends on the amount of sun, the time of day (and morning sun is the best, nothing likes afternoon sun), the roses you plant, how dense is the shade, etc. I would try planting a couple roses and see how they fare, before expending a lot of money and moreover precious time if they will not do well but if in 2-3 years you see they do well, then buy some more.

  • 18 years ago

    thank you. I think I'll plant a couple.

  • 18 years ago

    I have exactly this situation in the back half of my new garden, as the back of my lot is woods. The sun they get adds up to 4 to 6 hours, with bright/mottled shade and shade right in the middle of the day. I planted these shade-tolerant roses: Lyda Rose, the Fairy, Lovely Fairy, Vanity, Wild Spice (rugosa shrub), Darlow's Enigma, Secret Garden Musk Climber, and Sea Foam. There's a lot of hybrid musks in there as they are famous for being shade-tolerant, some more than others. Vintage Gardens website identifies shade-tolerant roses & have lots of wonderful old ones..incl. hybrid teas & older floribundas. Share your experiences with the ones you grow, OK?

  • 18 years ago

    Significant shade in zone 5 is different from shade in zone 8. In the warmer zones roses will appreciate the break and bloom fine with less sun (as the sun is stronger), but in the north roses in general need all the sun they can get. You don't mention how many total hours of sun the rose will get. It should really get at least 6 hours of sun in order to bloom well and not have problems.