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Roses for my yard

18 years ago

I am looking for some suggestions for Roses to plant in my yard. I am familiar with the explorer roses but would like to know what else Zone 4 people are growing.

I am especially curious if these roses would do allright for me here.

Circus

Climbing New Dawn

Robin Hood

Climbing Blaze

Nearly Wild

Carefree Wonder

Gene Boerner

Intrigue

I have already purchased these and have them potted up.

I now have to figure out where to place them.

Comments (8)

  • 18 years ago

    If you look over My Page, you'll see a list of the roses - over 200 that I grow in zone 4 of Michigan, the northern tip of the lower peninsula. There are a lot of roses that will survive in zone 4 although they end up being smaller than grown elsewhere to the south because the spring pruning usually takes them down to the ground. OTOH, there are a lot (besides the Explorers) that will be totally hardy.
    One thing you don't mention is what part of the north you are in - all zone 4's are not created equal. Whether or not you get good snow cover will make a difference as to how much cane survives on your less hardy roses. You may need to winterize (protect) your more tender roses - the hybrid teas and the floribundas. Then again, some parts of the country get so many freeze/thaw cycles that piling anything around the roses that would protect the canes might hold in moisture and cause canker. Knowing which state or province you are in would be helpful in our advice.
    One thing I can't help but point out right away is that you have some marginal climbers for zone 4 on your list and I wouldn't want you to be disappointed if they never achieve anything more than being a small shrub - I'm referring to New Dawn and Blaze. They'll survive in zone 4, but the canes will almost certainly not and that's what it takes to have a successful climbing rose.

  • 18 years ago

    Thanks for the quick response! I am in Minnesota about 45 minutes west of the Twin Cities and I have a fairly protected yard with lots of Trees (and hostas) We usually have extended snow cover due to the trees and buildings. I have a few sunny areas and also room around the west and south with enough sun for Roses. I have a few planted last year and they have all survived--so far. I mulched them and they are fairly protected from the wind. I am thinking of putting the climbers on the south side of a garden shed where they would recieve some protection and also would be willing to take the canes down if necessary.
    Are there any climbers that would do well for me?
    I have 2 Ramblin Reds that have survived the winter but one has recieved some pruning by a wayward grandson :(
    They have not seemed to suffer much dieback although one is much shorter than it was. So I am hopeful that they will get some size to them this year.
    I am willing to put some effort into winter protection as far as mulching and would like to know what would grow nicely to hide some chainlink fence Height would be what I am looking for.

  • 18 years ago

    The only one I have on your list is Intrigue, and it survived the winter here. I haven't pruned yet but I'll probably that this week. It is only in its second year for me so I can't say yet how well it will regrow. It does have lovely purple-red blooms that smell like lemons.

    John Cabot is my current climbing rose. It is very hardy but so far it mostly blooms once in the spring - but what a show it is. I'm very happy with it. I've ordered Quadra which is supposed to be hardy here too.

    If you're looking for some other ideas, one of my favorite roses is Moondance. It is a white with a yellowish center, and it blooms almost continuously. It has a medium scent.

  • 18 years ago

    Robin Hood and Nearly Wild should do fine for you. I'm guessing Carefree Wonder would be ok too.

    I am mostly growing the hardy Canadian roses, Bucks, Austins, a couple Easy Elegance, old garden roses, and a few shrubs.

    Some of my best roses are:
    Ramblin Red*
    Friends Forever*
    Dakota's Song
    Tuscany Superb
    Charles de Mills
    Konigin von Danemark*
    Charlotte*
    Mary Rose*
    Crocus Rose
    Heritage*
    Prairie Harvest
    Polonaise
    Quietness
    Linda Campbell

    Roses marked with a * will either be cane hardy and tall growing (to hide the fence...) or will die down but grow back to 5'+ by the end of the season. Other suggestions for tall growing roses are some of the rugosas like Hansa and Martin Frobisher, Lillian Gibson which is a once blooming rambler, and some of the once blooming old roses like William Lobb, Henri Martin, Celestial, etc..

  • 18 years ago

    twohuskies
    Your pictures of Ramblin Red are what led to my getting this one last year. Yours looks fantastic. I only hope that mine will be half as nice as yours. I have been looking at pictures on the gallery all afternoon and have been enjoying the Buck Roses. Do they need more protection than a heavy mulch here for winter?
    I will be on the lookout for Friends Forever also as I liked the pictures posted on the Gallery.
    This is very helpful information!
    I was "intrigued".
    by the color of Intrigue so I hope it does well also
    I still have SNOW in the yard and am just dying for some warm weather. Meanwhile I am planning what to plant...

  • 18 years ago

    Oh, thanks for the compliments!! Usually I'm the one saying that about everyone else's roses.....

    I don't give my Bucks anything more than some mulch over the crown at the end of the season. Friends Forever came from Ashdown. They may be the only ones that sell it?? But I think if you go into the rose library section on their website you can be put on a waiting list. It's an awesome rose with William Baffin and Mary Rose for parents. Mine was pretty much hardy to the tips even after this long cold winter. And it blooms a lot....

    I grew Intrigue for a year or two. Loved the color but I got rid of it when I decided I was going to focus on the more hardy roses. If you love that color you really MUST try Charles de Mills. Even though it's a once bloomer the blooms are just magnificent in person and very much worth the garden space. The Prince and Tradescant are awesome as well. Oh, I better stop myself now before I really get going. That's my favorite color in a really dangerous sort of way.

    Wasn't it nice to see the sun today!

  • 18 years ago

    Sun was/is great!!!!!!! It seemed so long since we have had a nice day and of course Monday but I raked a bit and tied up some canes and dreamed about seeing some GREEN! LOL
    Soon...
    Thanks for the list and I love the deep color too. I will probably have a lots more sun if the Ash Borers get here cause I have 4 huge ash trees :(
    More roses less hosta!
    A strange thing--I planted a William Baffin last summer and he is barely there!?!? Kind of a surprise for me...I will see what comes up in the next couple of weeks. The only other iffy looking one is a Charlotte Brownell but she was a bitty thing but bloomed right up till the killing frost.

  • 18 years ago

    One rule of thumb I follow, Maidofshade: always winter protect a new rose the first winter after it is planted in zone 4, even if it is a hardy rose. Your William Baffin may have benefited from a leaf mulch covering its first winter. Hopefully it will reward your patience by coming back full force for you this spring.

    I've not had any success with reliable cane hardiness on my Ramblin' Reds unfortunately, because I loved them the year they were tall and bloomed so profusely. But I'm in an open and windy location; your yard sounds quite sheltered and so you may have great good luck with that climber.