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Tractor paint

15 years ago

About 10 (or 15?) years back I repainted the deck (not mower deck but tractor deck) on my JD 314 with "Tractor & Implement" rattle can paint made by Valspar in proper John Deere green. The deck is now blue. The green has rather well faded. The tractor is stored under a car port shelter when not in use so it is not directly exposed to the weather. But now it is time to give it a repaint.

Any suggestions on what paint to use? This is a working tractor not a show tractor. No hand rubbed lacquer please :-) I am tempted to go over it again with the Valspar. The paint is in solid condition. The only issue is the color.

TIA,

Ken

Comments (11)

  • 15 years ago

    Gee--only ten or fifteen years? Holy cow! You must write to the company that made the paint, and tell them that you are contemplating a law-suit, claiming they cheated you!;o(
    BUT!!
    Expect the folks who run the local "Funny farm" to be at your door instead!
    For most any paint to stand up to the kind of use your machine is subject to, is asking a LOT! I suppose you washed it after every use, waxed the finish regularly, wiped it off with a chamois after the wash, kept it in a heated garage, did regular maintenance, on it. Did you clear-coat the paint after you applied it! And, last of all---Do you believe the moon is made of "Green Cheese?"
    Now--read this:
    Rattle can paint is not the same paint as what you buy in a quart or gallon can. Rattle-can paint is thinned (reduced, for the nit-pickers) so it sprays thru the teeny hole in the nozzle. A quart, or gallon, of paint is not thinned. That part is left to the consumer, who usually has some idea of how thin to make it for application with a regular paint spray gun. Rattle cans are mainly made for folks with no access to paint spraying equipment, nor the experience of using it.
    I have around 50 years of experience with paint spray applications, on everything from kitchen appliances to automobiles! The additives that are now needed to make paint dry with lasting gloss, etc. are not in the best interests for long life. Therefore, a spray can is used a lot, because of that problem, plus the problems with hardeners isn't there.
    Yes, you should use a professional spray mask, even with spray cans!
    So, don't knock the spray can, but also, don't expect that thin coat of paint to last forever!

  • 15 years ago

    And your point is?

    As I stated the paint is in good condition mechanically. It is just a considerably different color from what is was when I applied it. I have used this particular brand of paint in many colors on items as diverse as kerosene lanterns and the gas cylinder on an M1 Garand rifle. It sprays on thicker than any rattle can paint I have used. It has for the most part provided excellent service life. Especially when the painted item gets HOT.

    Ken

  • 15 years ago

    Consider the paint to have held up admirably, even though the color may have suffered a bit. The paint you have on there now is as good a base/primer as you can get.
    Scuff it lightly but thoroughly, or wipe it down vigorously with liquid de-glosser (non sanding surface prep solvent) and spray it with the current edition of Valspar, rattle can JD color of your choice (yellow deck looks good with a green tractor).
    And don't take rusty jones too critically. Wait and see what your posts look like when you get nigh on 87 YOA :^)

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks, Mownie, for the vote of confidence! RJ

  • 15 years ago

    Rusty what are ya doing Rattling that Man's Cage or Should I have said Can lol . 10-15 yrs of service life without any rust perforation or peeling ? Sounds like he actually did a fine job of surface prep also .

  • 15 years ago

    Them's my sediments, eggzactly! Not many folks keep their machinery as long as that writer has, so they can't or don't complain much about paint fade, or change of color!
    I'm not sure if a clear coat at time of application would have lessened the amount of paint color change. Also, Rattle can paint has seen lots of improvements, over the years. I've done several painting jobs, on mowers and tractors, that have gone well and looked nice.
    Several days ago, i went to TSC and checked their brand of paint. It seemed reasonably priced, at $12, or so, a quart. They sell a hardener for it, too. I think the hardener could be used if brushing it, but a pre-test might be a good idea. I don't think it would make it dry much faster, but, i haven't tried that.
    I got allergic to auto type paint, from the isocyanate hardener that we put in the paints to make them stand up better in the hot sun. Thats why i always recommend using an air supplied mask if sspraying paint with ISO's in it.
    As of this writing, i can not go into a body shop, or even be outside, if the painter is spraying anything containing ISO's! I retired 20 years ago, and still am affected by that chemical! But, i still see auto painters not using an air supply mask when spraying, or being in the vicinity. I asked one painter about that and he told me:"It doesn't bother me!" Well, fool, it will, later on!
    End of rant! But, be fore-warned! RJ

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks RJ. I DO wear a paint vapor respirator when spraying rattle can paint.

  • 15 years ago

    Hi Taylor. I'm also from NC.

    Rusty is a great guy. He's helped myself and a number of other folks here, as well as Mownie and many others.

    They're all giving great information and are well noted in their OPE knowledge.

    I'm also getting ready to do a rattle can paint job on a JD. I can only hope my paint job lasts anywhere near what you've just described - even with the change in color.

    Keep in touch. And, these guys love pictures.

  • 15 years ago

    Rusty you absolutely right as to PPE usage . Negative Pressure cartridge type respirators with the proper mist / organic vapour cartridge is the minimum protection for highly toxic vapours such as isocyanate . The use of a Hood and positive pressure respirators is even more prudent for longer term routine exposure such as what you have been exposed to over the yrs. Acute absorption or inhalation type sensitivities such as yours are normal reaction to these chemicals after prolonged exposures. I myself have developed asthma from industrial exposures to various chemical agents over some 30 + yrs exposure . Things like Benzene , Hydrogen Cyanide , Sulfur Dioxide , Chlorine , Coal Tar Pitch Volatiles etc. Anyhow rather off the topic of proper paint selection , but at least we may have enlighten some of the younger crowd of the risks of not wearing proper protection even when painting our recreational equipment . It's not only our eyes and ears that may be effected .

  • 15 years ago

    Yeah, my wife thinks it had affected my brain, too, but she's wrong on that count. Thanks for the nice words!
    And, i didn't mean to step on any toes, but it seems that some times, younger folk don't want advice from old geezers! But---just wait---! RJ (TTWC!)

  • 15 years ago

    Your only as Old as you feel Rusty and you apparently have yrs of sound advice to offer . Keep up the good work it's appreciated ! :)

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