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Please help newbie with choice

19 years ago

Just moved into a home with perhaps 2/3 acre of grass. Half of this is flat and smooth, the rest is hilly, perhaps 10% grade EXCEPT for a rather steep portion which thankfully is small. This will probably need the use of the push mower I now own.

My neighbor bought a Husqvarna 4217 (ZTR) last year and when I asked him how he likes it he came over and cut most of my lawn to let me see how it works. Yes, great neighbor and I value him highly. He also let me use it for a short time and I was of course not very good at it, being my first time on any rider and definitely not used to a ZTR.

So I set out to buy a ZTR, but am finding them perhaps a little rich for my blood. This model, although last years. can be had for around $2500, which is close to its original MSRP. (My neighbor bought his at Lowes on closeout for only $1900).

So I start looking at conventional tractors. One that comes to attention is the JD LA120. HD also has the Toro LX500 for a good price, but I hear they are not so hot, being made by MTD.

My priorities are:

1. Cost should be around $2000 or so, less would be good.

2. Should handle hilly terrain although I don't think it is too bad except for the one spot.

3. Even and clean cut

4. Excellent mulching performance. This is kinda important as I hate bagging. The JD comes with a mulch cover standard which pushes it forward a bit.

5. Reliability, longevity and ease of DIY service.

Lesser priorities (nice-to-haves) are:

Speed, quietness, smoothness.

I do not have much, if any, value for hauling stuff around and the machine will likely be used for mowing only. The HD guy said I do not need a ZTR given most of my priorities, and that the LA120 has a pretty tight turn for a tractor, admittedly not like a Z. He labeled this machine as the best value for the money in its price range. Seems like a knowledgeable fella and not pushy at all.

I have done a fair but of searching and reading in this forum and elsewhere. I would consider other machines from Lowe's, HD or even Sears (last choice). I know many here would advise that I go to a small dealer and avoid big-box but I have my (private) reasons for sticking with big box. Please humor me on that one.

I hope I have not been too vague, but have only been researching for a few days when time permits. I would like to buy one soon as the thought of doing that lawn again with a pusher gives me the heebie-jeebies. Would like to hear your thoughts on which mower from the big boxes would work best for my needs and budget, thanks in advance!

Comments (8)

  • 19 years ago

    Based on what you describe, go buy the Deere. It will cut almost all of your grass and whatever part it won't cut, you can use your push mower.

    No need to overthink this one.

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks, got the overthink part but I do like to research my purchases. After some more of this I found this model, Husqvarna 28756 at Sears. Seems to have a bit more features than the JD, similar engine, 4 gauge wheels (does the JD have two? Can't find this info and don't recall from my in-person sighting). The JD is 'mulch-ready' but I think that is just the cover, whereas for $50 (thus equalizing the price) you can buy from Sears the mulch kit with specific blades and some other part, no idea what it does.
    http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?pid=07124148000&vertical=Sears&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

    Opinions between these two? Will the 3-blade of the Husq be a disadvantage on the hill (which is quite even in an up-to-down direction, without too much sideways 'berming' for lack of a better word.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Husq @ sears

  • 19 years ago

    Herus,

    Working under pretty much the same priorities as you, I bought the Husqvarna tractor you're linking to at Sears (with the mulch kit) about 6 weeks ago. I put a lot of research into the decision and decided this tractor offered the best feature set, reliability, and value for the money. Tell Sears you have a 10% off coupon you could use at to buy this tractor at Lowes and they'll at least match the price by knocking 10% off (making it ~ $1620). You can probably get them to throw the mulch kit in free as well (I did).

    So far it's performed flawlessly on my relatively flat lot and I expect years of trouble free service going forward. The mulching kit works ok, although I think a set of Gator mulching blades will make it better.

    The Husqvarna has several advantages to the Deere aside from a lower price. These include being easily able to mow in reverse, electric clutch for the blade (called electric PTO, safer if you have kids and easier to use), a wider deck (mow more grass in less time), and a front bumper. Both models have B&S Intek based V-Twin engines (although the JD supposedly has an updated crank and bearings). Both models have the same Tuff-Torque K46 hydro tranny, which seems to be sufficient for a lawn tractor. The Deere has green and yellow paint though. Either will probably work well for you, one will just cost you more.

  • 19 years ago

    thanks needstractor. I called the local store and got to chatting with the salesman. he pointed me at the 28738 (no hits on this forum?!), which is their anniversary edition in a different color scheme. It is over $400 off thru tomorrow and is a 42", which I feel might work better (but I don't have concrete reason to feel this way). I don't mean to disregard advice but am discovering new options every hour it seems!

    This tractor has a boatload of ratings, mostly positive. Any users of this machine on the forum?

    BTW color makes no difference to me as long as it isn't hideous, but if I had to choose on that criterion alone I might go against popular opinion and choose Husky orange over JD green.

    Link below

    Here is a link that might be useful: anniversary edition

  • 19 years ago

    That looks like a good price for the Craftsman. Be aware that the Craftsmans's fender mounted controls for the hydrostatic transmission means its speed and direction are controlled with a lever instead of the more car like foot pedals on the Husqvarna. Some people prefer the fender controls though. Other than that, a smaller deck, and manual PTO clutch, this is probably the same tractor as the Husqvarna. They're both made by the same company.

  • 19 years ago

    I'd say that between the John Deere L series and Husqvarna series that they are pretty close in overall buld and quality, so it wouldn't hurt to buy on price. The sears is the same as the Husqvarna except for cosmetics and a few features like the fender vs foot controls.

    Another option would be to buy a used machine. You could get a couple year old low hour and in great shape higher end tractor for about the same money as one of these new. It will take some shopping and more research to know what you are looking at, but you could really find a great 20 year machine if you look.

  • 19 years ago

    At the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest referring to a Consumer Reports (Distorts, etc. etc.) test, the Craftsman YS 4500 rated a "Best Buy" has the foot controlled hydro, 21-HP B&S Intek single, and the new 46" two blade deck. I mention this because you indicated mulching and even cut are important. This is one of the few that they rate excellent for mulching and even cut, as well as bagging. Has to do with the new two blade 46-in deck, whereas before their 46-in deck was a three blade setup and didn't perform as well. Nor do the 42", 48" and 54" Craftsman decks for mulching, according to their tests. And, it's under $2K with a tight 18-in turning radius. Just thought I'd throw that one out there.

    Bill

  • 19 years ago

    I'll offer a different option all together so you can get fully informed. I'd recommend the Sears 33" commercial mower (Sears item #07188933000 Mfr. model #247-1) for $1000. You'll cut nearly as fast as a rider, and be able to purchase a good blower, string trimmer, and take the DW to dinner and still have money left over for seed and fertilizer. If all you want is a good cutting mower, I think you will waste more time on a rider on 2/3 acre than with a good commercial size walk behind.

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