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confining Apothecary's Rose

17 years ago

My Apothecary's Rose has been in the ground a number of years and has escaped and is spreading itself several feet away from the main plant. I plan to dig up the mess and try to re-plant some suckers. I realize now I should have been more diligent about slicing through runners before they got out of hand.

Any ideas about ways to keep it confined? Will planting it in a bottomless pot help? Or will it just get out anyway? (Unfortunately, I don't have a good place to plant it so that suckers will be cut down when we mow the grass.)

Thanks for suggestions.

Marcia

Comments (10)

  • 17 years ago

    Will planting it in a bottomless pot help?

    *** Not in the least, I fear.

    I planted 'Belle Isis' in a 15- G Nursery Squat Pot in the ground, with only a few extra drainage holes.

    Within two years, Belle Isis was springing up 3 and 4 feet away from the mother plant.
    The experience taught me why people grow Gallicas budded onto rootstock other than their own roaming roots.

    Jeri

  • 17 years ago

    Find some bamboo barriers, you dig a trench and place the barrier into it. The rose roots are stopped because the roots will only go a fairly short distance down before they try to move laterally again. If you google bamboo barriers they are easy to find.

    Lance

  • 17 years ago

    As Jeri says make sure you get the deepest bamboo barrier they stock.

  • 17 years ago

    Ugh! I read about the barriers. I have heavy clay soil, so lots of work! I'll have to think about it....

    Thank you for the information.
    Marcia

  • 17 years ago

    When my suckers wander too far I just pull them out, pot them up, and either give them away or plant them along country roads.

  • 17 years ago

    My latest strategy, which is just in the planning stage currently, is to plant dahlias in the place they want to grow. So there will be a space during some of the year where I can get in there and dig the offenders out repeatedly. My honest opinion is that they are just going to go under a bamboo barrier. Bamboo travels fairly close to the surface. These things are down a couple of feet, which is why they have to be repeatedly dug up.

  • 17 years ago

    Catsrose- That's a very clever idea (the country roads bit) for what to do with extra suckers. I only know one other person who grows roses, and I hated the thought of throwing them away.

    Elizabeth

  • 17 years ago

    Mad gallica, this particular rose is actually a sucker I received from you years ago. I love it and it stayed well behaved and beautiful for a number of years, but now it just wants to take over my whole garden! :-)
    Marcia

  • 17 years ago

    I was wondering if I'd sent you that. It was a while ago, now.

    Oelleit Flammand, the rose where I'm going to replace the neighboring perennials with dahlias, did the same thing. It was very well behaved and gorgeous for years. Then a couple of years ago, it started turning into a thug. Behind it is a mowed grass path, two other sides are ornamental grasses, only one of which predates the thuggishness, and it's the fourth side I'm having trouble with. Last year I ripped everything out, dug out as many suckers as I could, then replaced the perennials. This year it's more overgrown with rose than before.

    Grrrr!

    I don't even want to talk about Tuscany, which is apparently not even close to a rose for polite society.

  • 17 years ago

    Yes, I don't know how many years ago I received that sucker from you. I still think about you (in a nice way!). It is one of the first of my OGR plantings.

    I started digging the original planting place a couple days ago--the roots are enormous and solid--hardly able to get a shovel into the mass. No wonder it decided to start looking for greener pastures! I'm not sure I have the strength to do the whole job, as originally planned :-)
    Marcia